gec Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 G2A is offering BOS Start key for 8$ here : https://www.g2a.com/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad-cd-key-global.html pls do not use the link! it's for the start edition with 2 planes! that's about 41$ cheaper than on official pages. DL ing it now. here's also how to activate the key: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1366-game-key-activation-faq/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Wow!!! Absolute bargain! Grab it quick m8 Here you go, Gec. A quick landing the LaGG video tutorial. I still can't stop the bloody thing ground looping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gec Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hey thx Arthur. Maybe pulling back on the stick while on the ground would help? nope. i see u did that. no other suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Pooka Posted January 11, 2016 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted January 11, 2016 Arthur, do you fly multiplayer with other mates like IL-2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted January 11, 2016 2. Administrators Share Posted January 11, 2016 Too heavy on the brakes perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Arthur, do you fly multiplayer with other mates like IL-2 ? Hello Pooka. I do occasionally play BoS in multiplayer but the game - and RoF too - seems to require an internet connection of a higher order than CLoD or IL2 1946. My internet is still stuck in the stone age for several more months so if i want to fly BoS online it's got to be after 11p.m. - when local internet useage is going down. You really do need a wing man at least to make the most of BoS multiplayer so I'm waiting.....for a decent connection and enough Dogz to take an interest to make it worth while. Plenty of stuff to do in BoS off line nowdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Arthur, Can you share your SweetFX settings? Also, do you have a list of key commands, or a HOTAS legend with the commands that you have assigned that you could share? I am having problems with figuring out which commands I need, which ones work, and just confused generally setting up my hotas with the commands that I will need most of the time. I have a lot of commands setup and working, but I have spend about an hour trying to get LShift+M to toggle Auto Supercharger & Mix. At first when I pressed my Hotas button, it was just opening and closing the Map! As if the game was not receiving the LShift part of the command. (but when I test the button in the test window, it registers the LShift+M just fine.) The same happened when I used the keyboard I think? (I'm getting confused) So, I've made it a macro and now it does nothing. My x55 has had problems in the past, but has been working great for months now. And BoS has had some issues as well IIRC. So, I am getting confused as to where my problems lie. A list of working and needed commands would help me sort through these weeds. I am getting the feeling that this LShift+M command is either not needed, or not working? Since this game was ported over from RoF they left a few unnecessary commands in the game that don't really work I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Flaps are still down, Maybe still providing lift. I like to pull in my flaps once I hit the ground (horizontally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Same technique but this time in a Mig. Even though I stand on the brakes - no ground loop. @Snacko, I'll have a good rummage round tomorrow and check my settings and see what I can come up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 @Snacko, here we go; First of all SweetFX. I'm now using something called Reshade 2.0 to apply SweetFX. It's easy to install and works very well with a minimum effect on performance. Check out this thread; http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/14425-bos-and-sweetfx/ The actual settings I use are from a guy called SnowSniper. Click on this thread; http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/2183-bos-and-sweetfx-works-great/page-3?hl=sweetfx#entry311560 and check out post # 82. At the bottom of his sig. he has links to the SweetFX settings he's using. The first ones are for BoS. I've checked the links and they're still working. Once you have Reshade installed in your game you can copy paste these settings into your SweetFX folder. Find these settings in 1C Game Studios/IL2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad/Bin/Game/SweetFX. Open the SweetFX file and copy/paste these new settings into it. SweetFX is enabled/disabled by using the Scroll Lock key. Once you know how to change settings, plenty of others out there to try. I use SweetFX with BoS, RoF, CoD and DCS. As to key commands and set up; first of all, I suggest downloading the excellent community made manual for the game from here; http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/16752-il-2bos-user-manual-released-first-edition-english/ Very well written by the same guy who did the RoF manual, it gives you just about all the information you'll need. The whole set up arrangement is also identical to RoF's. Before I talk about key settings it would be best to go into your games Realism settings and in the Custom tab uncheck everything except; Object Markers Allow spectators Warmed up engine Auto pilot. and then leave your game running under these Custom settings. This will get rid of auto engine management and has the game running in settings we would normally use in IL2 1946 but you should be able to see the games quite useful "technochat" indicators. As my small brain shrivels on a daily basis I've tried to retain as many key commands/procedures that I am used to in IL2 1946 across all the sims I own. This means I have a lot of keyboard assignments that you may want to put on your Hotas set up but it works for me. I don't have a Saitek set up but I do have Hotas arrangement. I'm using a Microsoft Forcefeed back 2 stick and FT's old Logitech G940 throttle unit. This has two nice big levers that I use for prop pitch and throttle. I have assigned the throttle on my MSFFB2 as the water radiator control. The water radiator and cowl flaps for air cooled engines are about the only thing BoS allows you to assign to an axis or slider. I also have double assignments where they don't interfere with each other. Also, do you have Battle of Moscow too? Some of the assignments in controls in the game will refer to specific planes like the Bf 110 which you wont have if you don't have BoM. Once again, bearing in mind that I try to retain my familiar IL2 1946 settings, here is a run down of what I use/have assigned in game - different from the stock settings - by how it appears in the Main Menu/Settings/Key Mappings/Controls section of the game. From left to right we have Service, Camera Controls, Pilot Head Controls, Main Controls, etc. tabs so I'll with start with SERVICE About the only assignment I've changed in here from the stock settings is assign the Record button to my stick CAMERA CONTROLS Camera Zoom is on my mousewheel. Rotate Camera Up/Down = Mouse Y Rotate Camera Left/Right = Mouse X Camera Player Cockpit F1 External Free Cam/Player = F2 Other cams are also assigned to the F keys. PILOT HEAD CONTROL Pilot Head Zoom = Mousewheel Pilot Head Zoom In = Joystick POV hat up Pilot Head Zoom Out = Joystick POV hat down MAIN CONTROLS AI Autopilot For Level Flight = Q Adjustable Stabilizer Axis = a couple of buttons on my throttle unit - same controls used for FW190 adjustible stabiliser further down the list Trim controls in BoS are important but the game does not allow them to be assigned to any sliders or rotarys so I use the same configuration as in IL2 1946 - the number pad on my key board! Flaps and gear assignments; like my IL2 1946 install. Assigning something to Tail Wheel Lock is essential! Wheel Brakes for Russian aircraft work on both wheels simultaneously so are assigned to a hat switch on my throttle. Wheel brakes for German aircraft are toe brakes and have separate assignment for left and right so I have them on bottons on my throttle as I don't have pedals Gunsight filter; applicable to P40 only at the moment. Altimeter: Reference Pressure Toggle on keyboard - important assignment! ENGINE CONTROLS Ignore the Auto Mixture and Supercharger control. Thats the confusing one you mention in your post. You don't need it! You don't need Auto RPM Limiter either. Throttle and Pitch are assigned to the two nice big levers on my throttle and work for all planes with CSU's - mainly Soviet. German planes with DB engines like the BF109 and the 110 are designed to run in auto prop pitch and this is modelled in BoS very well. You can assign manual controls but I don't use them as it's just a quick way to blow your engine. There is no performance advantage. Same goes for the FW190. Mixture and Supercharger Mode Switches are vital for Soviet planes as they had manual mixture and supercharger stage switch controls so I've assigned them to my keyboard as per IL2 1946. Switch Engine Boost ON/Off - only applicable to the LA-5 Switch Propellor Pitch Control Mode Manual/Auto and Propellors High Pitch/Low Pitch = as above, to work LW 'planes in manual prop. pitch control - see above' I don't use them. Prop Feathering On/Off = I have a key assigned but I'm not sure which planes have this function. PE-2 and HE-111 perhaps? Switch Water Radiators Control Mode: Manual/Auto? Another assignment for LW fighters that is not needed. Water Radiators Shutters = assigned to the throttle on my MSFFB stick Oil Radiators Shutters? Thats the oil cooler in plain english - you'll need key assignments for it Engines Inlet and Outlet Cowl Shutters? for Soviet planes with radialengines only. These are a double assignment to my MSFFB throttle. Switch Engine Controls = key pad. No need to assign all those controls for engine 1, engine 2 at the moment in my opinion. I simply don't have enough levers! WEAPONS CONTROLS This is pretty straight forward and I re-use all my usual IL2 1946 assignments. There are some differences. Drop Bombs Mode Toggle = assigned to button on my stick and selects whether you want to drop bombs individually or in salvo Launch Rockets Mode Toggle = same function as above. Drop Bombs Delay Toggle = no idea what this does! Ignore it. Reload All Guns = needed, key on stick assigned to it Don't use much else except Gunners Fire At Will and Gunners Far Engage Distance to wake my AI gunners up and make them fire at enemies. ORDERS AND GESTURES A true hang over from RoF. You can assign stuff if you like firing flares, etc. Useful for the single player are; Attack Nearest Air Target Attack nearest ground Target Do Like Me Cover Me. If you're lucky your AI wingmen might just feel like obeying these commands or.....they might just f#'k off into the distance for no apparent reason! Phew! Thats about it for now. Hope this helps. Any questions? Just ask Sweper, lol! 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Snacko Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Thanks Arthur. That is much more than I was expecting, but all good info. I will go over it all indeed. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 @Snacko, here we go; First of all SweetFX. I'm now using something called Reshade 2.0 to apply SweetFX. It's easy to install and works very well with a minimum effect on performance. Check out this thread; http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/14425-bos-and-sweetfx/ The actual settings I use are from a guy called SnowSniper. Click on this thread; http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/2183-bos-and-sweetfx-works-great/page-3?hl=sweetfx#entry311560 and check out post # 82. At the bottom of his sig. he has links to the SweetFX settings he's using. The first ones are for BoS. I've checked the links and they're still working. Once you have Reshade installed in your game you can copy paste these settings into your SweetFX folder. Find these settings in 1C Game Studios/IL2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad/Bin/Game/SweetFX. Open the SweetFX file and copy/paste these new settings into it. SweetFX is enabled/disabled by using the Scroll Lock key. Once you know how to change settings, plenty of others out there to try. I use SweetFX with BoS, RoF, CoD and DCS. Have you used a program called Mediator? It came with ReShade when I downloaded it. Or do you just edit all the settings manually? Just curious, because I do think a tool to help edit all the settings is helpful.. this Mediator is too hard to use. I tried it once on BoS and removed it today. I made a SweetFX/Reshade jsgme mod that installs the directx dlls and everything it needs. Then I made another jsgme mod for each SweetFX_setting.txt file that I want to install. This way I can just let it overwrite my default settings and change them easily. I have 3 different settings for DCS. One is Vietnam settings that came with the Vietnam map terrain mod, and I have some other settings that i like. I also used some tool a while back for managing SweetFX settings in multiple games, but I can't remember what it was. It was much easier to use than Mediator.. SnowSniper's settings have a nice balance and color depth. Thanks for this. I'll get on with my control settings in the next few days.. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Never used Mediator. When I first used SweetFX I tried editing settings manually but it was tedious and I got some very mixed results. As it got more popular I learnt to use other peoples settings as they'd already one the Donkey work for me. I haven't found anything better than SnowSnipers settings yet. Was the tool you used to manage SweetFX in other games called FlightFX? I used to use that but it was never updated as later, better versions of SweetFX became available. What I really like about Reshade is ease of use and it also works inconjuction with the ingame anti-aliasing in RoF and BoS. Previous versions didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Was the tool you used to manage SweetFX in other games called FlightFX? I used to use that but it was never updated as later, better versions of SweetFX became available. What I really like about Reshade is ease of use and it also works inconjuction with the ingame anti-aliasing in RoF and BoS. Previous versions didn't. Yes, I think it was FlightFX. I think that's also why I stopped using it. I just know how to use jsgme so well, that it's easier to just use that to install/remove the settings. But editing them is a lot of trial and error.. Why is Reshade easier to use? don't you still have to edit the settings in notepad? .. I updated my controls today. Just a first version. If you find the time, can you take a quick look at my hotas keycard and tell me if you think I am missing any important commands? In the game, I assigned the Trim Up/Down; Adjust Stabilizers axis; and Fw-190 Adjust Stabilizers Up/Down All to the same keys RShift+CursorUp /Down. I saw this in a forum post, and seems to make sense to me. So, I have two switches on my hotas than just trim the elevators in all the aircraft. Seems dumb that they separated them all in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wow. Looks ok to me! Have you an assignment for dropping bombs or firing rockets in salvo, pairs or singles? The only thing I can suggest is your dive brakes assignment. You've got it on a useful looking lever on your stick? In BoS the only planes with dive brakes are the Stuka and the PE-2. The dive brakes are either out or in and are a single toggle assignment. You also have a toggle assigned for siren. The only plane with a siren is the Stuka. If you put the dive brakes on the same toggle as the siren you free up the lever on the stick and still retain the same functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluBear Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just leaving this here for anyone who's interested, i've not had a chance to sit through the whole 21 minutes yet, but did listen to him point out the uber-ness of the Russian aircraft compared to the German. It sure looks pretty and I might be tempted to give it a go, one day... If only DCS wasn't so addictive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Pooka Posted January 20, 2016 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted January 20, 2016 I've been pondering on how to wish you a very special Happy Birthday. Just have to go with, have a wonderful and rememberable 55th birthday. Many more too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 i've not had a chance to sit through the whole 21 minutes yet, but did listen to him point out the uber-ness of the Russian aircraft compared to the German. Unfortunately Mr. Dude is talking out of his backside. The most over-performing 'plane in BoS by general consensus? The Bf109 F4. BluBear, you really want to give this a try. BoS is developing into a worthy successor to IL2 1946. Lots of good stuff going on at a decent pace and at last the Devs are talking about putting a true coop mode into the game. Having established a firm foundation, if they've got any commercial sense they'll turn westward for the next expansion. I want a Spitfire! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Not a Spitfire. Curses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_O_A_D Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Broke down and bought it 50% off last week, first imression is I don't like that I can't use my rotarys for trim, and the motion blurr when moving my head is annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Can't do much about rotarys but to get rid of motion blur; in your game - go into Settings > Camera > uncheck "cinematic" down the bottom left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_O_A_D Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Ok Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Beware I bought this and seem to have been given a "start edition" key that only has 2 planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Beware I bought this and seem to have been given a "start edition" key that only has 2 planes. Hello Mayhem. Tell us more about this purchase. Have you got a link to the site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Hi Arthur, bought it from G2A and after plugging the provided key into the BOS site my account shows "start edition" activated. Seems this was a special edition only offered in Russia? Since my internet kind of sucks now that I moved out to the country (satellite), its better for me to download at night which I haven't done yet, so the game isn't installed. I did shoot and email to 1C support and here's their reply. Looks like you get 2 planes to start and have to unlock the other 6 through the campaign thus essentially bring you up to standard edition perhaps? Hi, Initially, you only get 2 aircraft. The remaining 6 aircraft you can get during the campaign You will not be able to use the option "ACTIVATE UNLOCKS" http://il2sturmovik.com/activate-unlocks Detailed description "Start Edition" is available on its DVD-box and on our website http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/2257-opisanie-startovogo-i-standartnogo-izdanij-ig/ r on DVD-box games It is impossible to improve the "Start Edition" to "Standard Edition" or "Premium edition" As the details from the link are in Russian, here's the translation via Google. - Start edition contains two aircraft : LaGG -3 29th and a series of Bf 109 F- 4 - Another 6 aircraft ( Yak - 1, 69 -series , the Bf 109 G- 2 , IL - 2 AM- 38 (Model 1942 ) , the Ju 87 D- 3 , the He 111 H- 6 , Pe- 2 87 Series ) is available for free in the game , passing career. - It is also possible to purchase 2 additional premium aircraft La - 5 and FW 190 A- 3 in our store http://il2sturmovik.ru/store/ - This publication contains the key for the version of the game from the site to Steam it is not suitable . - Drive to the game is not required . - Release Date November 19, 2014 All in all, I'm fine with this as I'll pretty much exclusively be playing offline anyways. But its good information for anyone thinking they will just buy this and hop online with you guys having all 8 planes unlocked straight away. I'll be sure to pick up the La 5 and the FW 190 when the go on sale sometime, but this ought to keep me busy for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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