Tonar Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 That's what I was thinking But I Want it Now!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconise Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 When you said "widdle that down" the first thing I saw was Blairgowrie's little beaver with the chainsaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted December 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Death of a Dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I am also contemplating a new PC, as the old one is now some 4 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted December 3, 2008 2. Administrators Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Looks good to me m8 - not sure about the case, but it's only for keepng the bits in after all - spec's good, and you've got room to grow (SLI for SOW for example) ~S~ Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Pete, Just some thoughts. No sound card, DVD or operating system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Pete, Try ncix.com for prices as well......I beleive they are from somewhere out west....... Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconise Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Good point on NCIX, if I am not wrong the TigerDirect link is American. TigerDirect Canada is available, but I've never seen a deal there worth buying from them. Even from the Canadian site, you will get stung with shipping, a border Brokerage Fee, exchange, and then tax on top of all that. NewEgg now has a Canadian site, and while the prices haven't been always better than NCIX or DirectCanada, they have been fair. I always recommend buying from NCIX as long as they have the parts in stock, you can pricematch any item that comes from a Canadian site and has online purchasing. So, you get the best price, and only have to buy from one outlet. By the way, DirectCanada as well as NXSource is owned by NCIX! The best place to find the best pricematches is at Hardware Canucks, a great site, yet the prices are actually run through pricecanada.com: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/ http://hardwarecanucks.pricecanada.com/ http://www.ncix.com/ http://www.directcanada.com/ http://www.newegg.ca/ If you go to the forums at HC, into the New Builds section, register and post a thread there, you will get excellent advice on component choices, packages and pricematches. I am a bit of a regular there, but rarely have to post in that section because there are so many other knowledgable members very quick to respond. As for the package specs, it isn't that great a deal. It is old tech for the most part, and the price doesn't justify buying out of date parts. The PSU is definately a POS, beware of Ultra power supplies. NCIX has it's weekly sale coming up tonight, and they have been running a lot of barebones packages these days. I'll come back and post a couple later tomorrow. I can assume you have about an $850 CND budget? What components are you able to carry over from your old system? Like DVD or operating system? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 And you might want to look at New Egg, Canada, Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Falconise, I don't expect to carry over anything from the old system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconise Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Sorry for the mess of formatting, and only the pricematch links work. If you PM me your email address, I can send you an email with working links and better formatting. There are rebates on some of this stuff, I didn't include them because it is too much trouble to calculate after taxes etc. I don't like to count on them anyway, while most do pay, there has been some rebate companies filing for chapter 11 recently and it is best to just figure your initial outlay and any rebates that come back are just a bonus. No super deals this week. Prices and been volitile for months now, and go up as much as down these days. The mobo comes with a free shipping deal for the whole order! Can't afford a quad core CPU in this, but that is a super easy upgrade for the future. Still lacking a display. Added a cheapo keyboard and mouse combo, gets you up and running till you can get something nice (maybe for xmas!). Went with XP Home, saves about $20. Easy enough to go with Vista is thats what you want. Had to go to Futureshop for the vid card, they have different SKUs and NCIX won't pricematch them. The EVGA 9800GTX+ SuperClock is on regular price for $210, has been for a while. Although FS site says they are out of stock. I bought one myself a while ago (before the crash) and got it for about $210 after tax. NCIXs price on this card is like $260. The card is quite competent at lower resolutions (1280x1024) with max details, AA and AF. http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10109251&catid=25617 Short List Specs: Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz AC Freezer Pro 7 HSF Asus P5Q Pro 2GB (2x1GB) G.Skill PC2-8500 ram 5-5-5-15 @ 1066MHz EVGA 9800GTX+ SC video Antec Sonata III w/ 500w PSU LG DVD/RW SATA Seagate Barracuda 500GB 32MB Windows XP Home OEM Logitech Deluxe 250 keyboard/mouse 1 x 120mm fan for inside case in front of hard drive bays Price Total: $950 before tax Copy Paste from cart: Del Item Description In Stock Part # QTY Price Ext. Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Keep the options coming, guys - the more the merrier! Natalie is warming up to the idea...... I'd need a monitor too, but I could pick one up easily at a Boxing Day sale too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 A good monitor (I have a samsung widescreen 22") can be found in the 250 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted December 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Since I have 86'ed the new PC, I am now looking into what I can do to get my current PC a little better. I am running an X800(AGP), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 A 3850 would give you a good boost Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quazi Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Since I have 86'ed the new PC, I am now looking into what I can do to get my current PC a little better. I am running an X800(AGP), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks Quazi and BG, I was wondering about the bottleneck issue. The more I think about it, the more I realize I should just calm down and be happy with what I have!. There are people in this world that only have 1GHz processors!! Who needs water effects anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Lots of food for thought here: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2601013236/m/5451076317 You can make a library of links for comparison purposes, both performance and prices from this. Hope it helps. Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconise Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Since I have 86'ed the new PC, I am now looking into what I can do to get my current PC a little better. I am running an X800(AGP), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks Guys, My money is on the CPU,(AMD athelon 3000+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 OK. Would anyone like to point out any glaring bad things about this barebones kit for a 1/2 upgrade purpose. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4580249&CatId=3446 I'm trying to get away with under $400 (including GPU) and be able to play IL2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Not the way I would go Mr. Tonar. That 300 watt PSU is like putting bicycle brakes on a Ferrari. Something expensive is going to burn out very quickly. The CPU also looks weak. Fraid you are going to have spend a little more. Being cheap is one thing but I think you would just be throwing money down the drain. Whatever you do, buy a good brand PSU with enough wattage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfesser Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 IL2 doesn't need a super hot vid card as much as it needs a balance of CPU speed and decent graphics. I'm an old AMD fan but it's pretty hard to beat Intel's socket 775 bang for buck these days. Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconise Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I concur. I'd also avoid Tiger Direct, there are better outlets out there with better prices. The case isn't all that bad, the Apex cases I have used in budget builds have been pleasing enough, but the PSU that comes with it will only let you down. The thing is, for a few bucks more you can get a much nicer case. If you look at the inside pics of the Apex, it is pretty tinny, flimsy and cheap. Compared to a low end Cooler Master or Thermaltake there is no contest. The Antec 300 is a very decent case for the money, too. These name brand cases do not come with a power supply. Although, the Antec Sonata II comes with a very decent 500w PSU that is worth almost the cost of the case and PSU together. (prices in my links are Canadian) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26048&vpn=RC%2D690%2DKKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1060 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC&promoid=1060 Also, the ram included isn't very good, you want some DDR2-800 minimum speed, preferably a 4GB kit (2 x 2GB). What they are giving you is a single stick of slow 2GB, so NO dual channel advantage - you need ram in pairs to use dual channel, which vastly improves memory performance. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28306&vpn=F2%2D8500CL5D%2D4GBPK&manufacture=G.SKILL&promoid=1060 The motherboard is a low end micro-atx, and will limit expansion and upgrades in the future. The CPU isn't all that bad, they are cheap and overclockable. It may not be as powerful as it's bigger brothers, but it is the easiest thing to upgrade later, simply swap it out for a better one. You just have to be careful that the mobo supports the CPUs you would be interested in upgrading to. The Asus P5Q is an excellent choice. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33181&vpn=BX80571E5200&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1060 I've been watching the Seagate drives lately, and the 500GB version of that 250GB drive is only a couple dollars more -- you get twice the space, twice the cache (32MB instead of 16MB), as well as it is just plain faster. Be careful of the exact models and specs, some of the 250GB drives only have 8MB cache and some of the 500GB only have 16MB cache. Lastly, add a $20 CPU cooler, the Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro performs excellent and is much quieter than the stock one. There are a lot of good Video cards in the range of $200, almost need a thread of it's own. Asus P5Q Intel E2200 or E5200 or E7200 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066 memory Corsair CMPSU-400CX or an OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W power supply Seagate 250GB or 500GB hard drive Antec 300 case Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro cpu heatsink or Asus P5Q Intel E2200 or E5200 or E7200 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066 memory Seagate 250GB or 500GB hard drive Antec Sonata II case with 500w PSU Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro cpu heatsink . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 what about this one guys......the processor looks to be a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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