delta7 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://www.navylookout.com/the-f-35-accident-report-a-reality-check-for-uk-carrier-strike/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 We simply don’t have the money for these things and this incident was a symptom of this underfunding. Quite what we need them for anyway is another question. A carrier battle group is a military, economic and societal statement. Notice that neither the Russians or the Chinese have anything approaching the scope of what the US navy can field and they never will. As for our own - absurd -defence procurement policy; at the level of spending we can commit something has to give; for the luxury of two fleet carriers that will never go to sea at the same time we have given up our capability to field an infantry division overseas and have a navy with the fewest ships since Henry VIII watched the Mary Rose sink in Portsmouth harbour. It’s absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Painless Posted September 18, 2023 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted September 18, 2023 The only reason those carriers were ever built was so that when the USA send a fleet somewhere to police the world they can call it a “coalition” because the Brits are involved. It also affords them a lovely order for lots of F35 aircraft. We don’t need to “project power” globally, we don’t have an empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum DD_Fenrir Posted September 18, 2023 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted September 18, 2023 Falklands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators fruitbat Posted September 18, 2023 2. Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2023 China diesel have an empire eithet (yet). They've just launched their 3rd carrier, with an interesting design, no angled deck, not vtol aircraft..... Either all there pilots are shit hot, or the first bolter is going to wipe out the entire flight line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Painless Posted September 19, 2023 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted September 19, 2023 15 hours ago, DD_Fenrir said: Falklands. 1982 Thatcher ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Unless the UK is going to do carriers properly they shouldnt bother. I dont think we have enough ships to escort 1 let alone 2 carriers and have ships left over to do other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 7:12 PM, DD_Fenrir said: Falklands. Hmmm….didn’t we spend a million squillion quid on RAF Mount Pleasant back in the eighties so we wouldn’t have to worry about expensive aircraft carriers? Our defence spending since the end of the Cold War seems to run along the lines of “who’s turn is it for something expensive?” without considering what we actually can do or need to do. Not too sure if we need to sail halfway around the world to wind up the Chinese… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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