2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 7, 2011 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Chaps, recently I've been considering picking up the paintbrush and doing a little light kit building for the first time in years. Bearing in mind that all the stuff I had disappeared years ago, what in your opinion(s) do I need to get started/essentials? Apart from a kit that is... Oh and I want to try my hand at spraying too... Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Sid Posted July 7, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Chaps, recently I've been considering picking up the paintbrush and doing a little light kit building for the first time in years. Bearing in mind that all the stuff I had disappeared years ago, what in your opinion(s) do I need to get started/essentials? Apart from a kit that is... Oh and I want to try my hand at spraying too... Jabo Nice to hear you are getting into it. This list will no doubt get added to: Good eyesight Steady hand Patience Place away from others Modelling knives with a selection of curved and straight blades Straignt tweezers, curved tweezers Various grades of glasspaper Wooden board to build on Small hand/electric drill Polystyrene glue, super glue, epoxy glue cocktail sticks to apply glue Clothes pegs to hold things together Various sizes of elastic bands to hold things together Lint free cloth to wipe and dry Soap tissues to clean surfaces A clamp that can stand alone on a surface so's you can use both hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 7, 2011 Author 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Thanks m8, for the drill thing, I was contemplating investing in a basic Dremel sort of thing. Is this the right way to go? Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Sid Posted July 7, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Thanks m8, for the drill thing, I was contemplating investing in a basic Dremel sort of thing. Is this the right way to go? Jabo That's what I've got - it came with a few useful attachments and is easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfp Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 pantyhose and a vacuum cleaner to defeat the rug monster and recover small fiddley bits that tend to fly off, defy the laws of physics, and never land where you expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta7 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 check out tips section forr info http://dangerdogz.com/forums/topic/7022-hints-and-tips/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 14, 2011 Author 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 pantyhose and a vacuum cleaner to defeat the rug monster and recover small fiddley bits that tend to fly off, defy the laws of physics, and never land where you expect. I don't see how hoovering whilst wearing pantyhose will help Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_O_A_D Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I get it, he's talking about slipping hose over nozzle of vacuum to sweep the floor. Little pieces you drop and can't see, will get sucked up to the stocking, and cling there while the vacuum continues pulling air past it. Gosh I hope I said that right, without any sexual innuendos . I was also thinking the panty hose would make a great filter on a PC case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfp Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 pantyhose and a vacuum cleaner to defeat the rug monster and recover small fiddley bits that tend to fly off, defy the laws of physics, and never land where you expect. I don't see how hoovering whilst wearing pantyhose will help Jabo Its all about support...wouldnt want to throw a clot while vacuuming. pantyhose and a vacuum cleaner to defeat the rug monster and recover small fiddley bits that tend to fly off, defy the laws of physics, and never land where you expect. I don't see how hoovering whilst wearing pantyhose will help Jabo Its all about support...wouldnt want to throw a clot while vacuuming. Seriously...What toad said, if you were serious; which I hope you weren't THAT serious, but if you were...then yeah, what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 15, 2011 Author 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 No, I wasn't serious, although I didn't fully understand what you meant. Toads post has clarified that nicely. Here's a paint/glue related question though. I've noticed that when spraying fuselages and other large areas, you are going to spray over surfaces which may need to have glue applied for fitting antennas etc. Do new glues work with painted surfaces, or would you need to clean the surfaces of paint before glueing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta7 Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 It depends, small attatchments are usually located in predrilled holes, so a touch of superglue works ok. ( I always apply superglue with a pin on small objects this prevents a gloop going over the model. Drop the superglue onto a pin and then touch this into the hole or onto the peg that you need to join. It also works when using small photoetch parts. ) If you have filled over the holes then redrill these to locate the parts on. If its a larger object e.g. undercarraige doors then clean back the paint to join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 15, 2011 Author 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 So cyano works over paint eh? Interesting. Thanks for answering an unasked question about how you glue photoetch parts to the model. I've ordered the kit from Hannants - airfix 1:48 seafire. Cheap n' cheerful plus big enough not to be too fiddly. Researching colour schemes now. Got a load of other goodies on order too. Quite exciting really. Also bought a big pack of blu-tack and several dozen cocktail sticks. Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta7 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Is that the new release ? meant to be very good, there are several in build and final kits of this here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?act=idx e.g http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72529&st=0 http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74149 http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74164 http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74110 great for tips and hints for your build, but be warned some of these guys are every bit as "dedicated" as some of those on the zoo build it for yourself and enjoy it !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfp Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 So cyano works over paint eh? Interesting. Thanks for answering an unasked question about how you glue photoetch parts to the model. I've ordered the kit from Hannants - airfix 1:48 seafire. Cheap n' cheerful plus big enough not to be too fiddly. Researching colour schemes now. Got a load of other goodies on order too. Quite exciting really. Also bought a big pack of blu-tack and several dozen cocktail sticks. Jabo Yep....I use it for all sorts of PE; ship railings and decks are normally prepainted before marrying, and I just run a line of cyano at the joint. Havent had a problem. For larger items, I use tenax 7r which is the same as micro-weld; the paint definitley needs to be cleared away before mating the surfaces together. Oh and make sure you get some super glue with different curing times, some things you want a little more time to work with. Once your satisfied, just spray a little zip kicker in the area and the glue cures instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted July 18, 2011 Author 2. Administrators Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 OK, all sorts of goodies arrived in the post this morning, so I'm going to take a few days to read up on the source material before deciding on paint, particularly for the interior. Here's a quick question though, the model comes with optional underwing wockets/wails as well as a belly drop tank - do I fit these or not? Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfp Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 OK, all sorts of goodies arrived in the post this morning, so I'm going to take a few days to read up on the source material before deciding on paint, particularly for the interior. Here's a quick question though, the model comes with optional underwing wockets/wails as well as a belly drop tank - do I fit these or not? Jabo Typically the instructions will tell you about the mix that can be underslung...for instance, I am working on a P47 that could be built as two different a/c and each variant has different underwing stores depending on the role it would fulfill (ground atk/escort/etc) I opted to go with a bomber escort version eliminating all except for the belly tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Don't forget the super glue setting agent, not sure what the technical name is, "quickset", or somesuch. Also, one of those small candle-in-a-brass-tin candles comes in handy if you're into using heated sprue (that's the extra plastic, usually in stick form, from the mold), which can then be stretched and attached for radio antennas. This takes practice. It can also be done to put it on the model limp, and pass the candle under the "wire" to tighten it up, but you have to be really careful with that. I found that brushes were really less than ideal per what the finished product looked like (brush marks). I suspect an airbrush will give a much nicer finished look, though I've never used mine for lack of compressor/water trap, etc. Oh, a fume hood would be a good idea. Draw the fumes away so you don't breath them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyKnight Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Nick, Have you looked in to Airbrushes and Compressors yet? I recommended this to Painless. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMPLETE-AIRBRUSH-KIT-AIRBRUSH-COMPRESSOR-TANK-/350446067151?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item5198369dcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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