OverDhill Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well it has been a busy couple weeks for me. I have been dealing with real life situations and some computer hardware issues. First was the death of my brother in-law who battled pancreatic cancer and finally lost. He was a good man who was married to my older sister for 46 years. Also within the past few weeks I had upgraded my Nvidia 660SC to a 970FTW. The card was extremely fast and ran cool. However I had some weird stuttering issues that drove me crazy as I tried to track them down. It eventually led me to some recent articles on the memory issues on the 970. Since I was still within the send back period I decided to upgrade to a 980SC with the ACX 2.0 cooling fan. A couple things about the 980 The ACX is worth the extra few bucks as they run cooler and the fan is super high quality Make sure you have the room as the 980 is much longer than the 970 was. It barely fit in my Antec 903 case Now I need to start tweaking the graphics once again for the sims I play to get the most eye candy from them. I doubt I will run into low FPS issues or stuttering now (least I hope not). Another week when my daughter who flew in from Texas goes home should let me get back to normal and start spending some quality time flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted February 8, 2015 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted February 8, 2015 Condolences OD! And thanks for the heads-up/info on the 970/980ACX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Sorry to hear about your brother in law. I too have been doing a little research of late and have heard (g)rumblings about the 970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sorry to hear about your B. I Law. It's tough to find a man that's good enough for your sister! Tougher still to loose him. As for the 970, thanks for the heads up. Please keep us updated on the 980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well I had a little time to do some benchmarks Using the Heaven Benchmark by Unigine on maxed out settings here is my results. Temp never hit 60c https://unigine.com/products/heaven/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APHill Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 How do you like your 980 OD? Mine stutters a lot. I would return it for a refund if I could. I will never again buy anything from new egg. From what I have been reading on a number of forums stuttering is a known problem at least for users if not for EVGA or Nvidia. Have you ever heard of ASIC quality? Mine is 69.6 which seems low to me. Of course I don't fully understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 AP have you run the Heaven Benchmark? I would let it run for a long time then hit Benchmark and see what you get. Like I told you I really think a 550W power supply is really underpowered. It is possible the GPU voltages might be fluctuating. Doing a lot of searching when I had the 970 leads me to believe there is not nearly as many 980 problems out there. CaptJack has never complained about stutters that I am aware of. I would be willing to bet he has a hefty power supply in his new system. as for ASIC that is like debating religion. Lots of opinions and not many consensus as to what it really determines. I would go into the bios and disable the on board sound card and maybe even the network card. Then try it with no sound (no USB headphones either) offline and see if you still get the stutters. Narrow it down to the basics. Another thing after the bios upgrade and the other things I mentioned would be to do a Nvidia driver cleaner. Also did you run the Resource Monitor and check to see what your CPU, drives and network are doing when it stutters? There could easily be something else running in the background causing it. Also try this Go to Nvidia Control panel and set Power management mode to use prefer maximum performance and change maximum pre rendered frames to 3. Did you unpark the CPU cores? Use Geforce Experience and place the card in Kboost mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APHill Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 The GTX 770 card I was running takes more power than the GTX 980 requires. It wasn't stuttering with a 550 watt power supply, why then would I need more power with a card that draws less wattage than my previous card did? I also updated the BIOS because I read somewhere that it needed to be updated to the latest version, but that may be the problem area. the Asus site has bios upgrades for the p8p67 REV 3.0 - New P67 B3 Revision but my card is a rev 1.02 (there are a number of P8P67 types out there mine is just a plain P8P67 as far as I can tell) so I may have totally screwed the pouch on that one. I understand you can't roll back the BIOS like you can drivers. I also updated the chipset drivers. I did the other things you suggested......No difference. I have downloaded the Heaven Benchmark and will run it eventually. I will put the 770 card back in my machine at some point just to see if the stutters go away as it was before. If they do then I figure I wasted the money on the 980 card. Right know I am using my old monitor with an upgraded card getting worse performance than I had with the 770 card. What the xxxx! I dont get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted February 28, 2015 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted February 28, 2015 Well I had a little time to do some benchmarks Using the Heaven Benchmark by Unigine on maxed out settings here is my results. Temp never hit 60c https://unigine.com/products/heaven/ What's up with the resolution here? 1920x1064? Normal would be 1920x1080 ... Edit: I see you ran it windowed, ie not in 'Full Screen' Here's what my system does: Asus "SYTRIX" GTX970 Yes, despite the warning, I got me one... I guess I wasn't really paying attention after my GTX580 lost a fan, and I needed something new. Can't say that it is stuttering though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I went windowed as worse case scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptJackG Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Here is the benchmarks I get at my native resolution 1200 and 1 at 1080' Unigine Heaven Benchmark 1.docx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APHill Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Here are mine. Good,bad??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I dunno about Captain Jack but all the rest of you guys could have your CPU's running at 4ghz on air with no problem. Obviously, that wouldn't make make any difference to how IL2 1946 would perform and I doubt anything over 3.5ghz would really effect CoD either but if you run RoF/BoS or DCS then I think that would be of measurable benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APHill Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Arthur, What do you mean by:"you guys could have your CPU's running at 4 ghz on air with no problem." Over clock? Especially the "on air" part. And I still have stutters on all my sims. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverDhill Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 AP I am still not convinced that it is a video card problem. Will get back with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yeah AP. You could overclock with ease. You'd need to fit an aftermarket cooler to your cpu first but its easy. You do not need to have water cooling to reach this speed. Easier than flashing your Bios too! Check this out; I've got an i7-930 which runs at 2.8ghz as stock. I run mine at 3.8ghz with no problem. Two caveats; If you are at all uncertain about overclocking then simply do not do it. There is a risk of doing serious damage to your cpu and mobo if things go very wrong. Do you get stutters in IL2 1946 or stutters in RoF that you did not have before? I ask about these two sims specifically as they should both undoubtedly run smooth and stable on your system. If this is the case then over-clocking your cpu will not cure the stutters your are getting. Whatever the cause is, it's not because your cpu runs at its stock speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted March 1, 2015 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted March 1, 2015 Arthur, the Ungine Heaven benchmark reports CPU speed incorrectly. I've got mine running at 4.3. Tried some of the settings in the video, but that failed, probably because I use a P8P67LE ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The video should just give an idea of what is involved. I managed it and the house hasn't burnt down..............yet 4.3ghz paired with a 970? Mmmm...that'll do nicely. Have you tried BoS with it yet? I would imagine that's the most demanding thing in the way of flight sims at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted March 1, 2015 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted March 1, 2015 The video should just give an idea of what is involved. I managed it and the house hasn't burnt down..............yet 4.3ghz paired with a 970? Mmmm...that'll do nicely. Have you tried BoS with it yet? I would imagine that's the most demanding thing in the way of flight sims at the moment. It does run nicely, the only 'issue' I find is that is feels as if looking around with TrackIR is not as smooth as it used to be... can't really call it micro stutters... dunno... Have not tried BOS yet... too occupied with IL2 and CloD ... Can't be bosthered ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 My ASUS Rampage II Extreme mb auto-overclocks to 4.02mhz with the click of a button on my desktop. I have a Noctua double fan cooler, which is huge. Think about the size if you get a big cooler. I had to take out a large side fan to get my case closed, but Added fans in other areas to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APHill Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Could you tell me what your rig consists of as I may end up buying a whole new rig if I cant solve my stuttering problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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