delta7 Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 Another interesting ( for me :shock: ) subject - please post your stick type +rudder pedels if you use them and their settings- also if you change them between planes or stick with one set Mine -for all - Saitek x-45 stick and throttle with ch pro peddels aileron =50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 elevator=50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 rudder=40 45 52 58 65 72 77 83 88 95 I used to try all 100s but that was a bit twitchy - Im going to have to lower these as well I think - still testing :roll: Quote
DZ9 Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 believe it or not ive found default to be the smoothest settings ive tried! Quote
DoubleTap Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 Another interesting ( for me :shock: ) subject - please post your stick type +rudder pedels if you use them and their settings- also if you change them between planes or stick with one set Mine -for all - Saitek x-45 stick and throttle with ch pro peddels aileron =50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 elevator=50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 rudder=40 45 52 58 65 72 77 83 88 95 I used to try all 100s but that was a bit twitchy - Im going to have to lower these as well I think - still testing :roll: I gave up trying to tweak them a while ago. Not because its pointless, but because its so time confusing. Because of the quirks of IL2, once I installed my speed pad (use it as my throttle) and my pedals, the joystick cannot be configured in game so I have to do it with the config file, which is a chore. I have tried all different settings for my stick (CH Flightstick USB) from all 100's (which I think its on now), to one Angus supplied me a while back. I kept adjusting because overtime I think I got a little better with my handling so I found I needed different things. I have not had time to go back and really compare settings. Dave, why the high settings for aileron and elevator? I mean, I get confused as to what the settings do. At 50, do small movements with the stick produce a greater or lesser response? This is what I think always confused me about these settings on the stick. As far as my pedals, they are cheapies that came with driving set by Saitek ($20). I had to really tweak them down by changing the settings to something similar to this: rudder=1 5 10 15 20 30 40 50 50 95 Before, even the slightest pressure on the pedals would cause the rudder to slam to one side of the other. Quote
1. DDz Quorum Friar Posted September 8, 2006 1. DDz Quorum Posted September 8, 2006 My stick - Saitek evo pro track ir 4 on a baseball cap no peddles settings all 100's. dont notice any "twitcheness", thought i would before i changed but i dont. Quote
Blairgowrie Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 These are for my MSFFB2 1X=1 14 24 34 43 54 63 74 83 94 100 10 1Y=1 17 27 37 46 57 77 86 97 100 100 20 1RZ=5 22 28 36 48 56 68 76 88 96 100 10 Quote
Blairgowrie Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 Does anyone remember the name of that great joystick profiler? You can set up multi profiles with it and then just click one the one you want before going into the game. It already had Oleg's and the British Test pilot Brown's settings in it. I don't know if it is just for MSFFB@ sticks or if it applies to all sticks. The latter I would think. I have tried Airwarfare but can't find it there. Quote
DZ9 Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 Is it not il2sticks by fooltrottel? i think theres a new kid on the block too- seen a post by Fooltrottel on ubi about a new programme that was better than his Quote
Shadow Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 The name of the profiler is IL2 Stick Sensitivity Tool. Find it at airwarfare.com http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2/il2_ ... es.htm#087 Here is my config. X-52, Pedals. 1X1=0 65 72 79 86 93 100 100 100 100 100 0-------------Aileron 1Y1=0 65 72 79 86 93 100 100 100 100 100 0-------------Elevator 1Z1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0------Throttle 1Z=0 72 78 83 87 93 96 99 100 100 100 0-----------------Rudder 1RY1=0 1 4 7 13 20 29 40 52 66 81 0----------------------Trim Aileron 1U1=0 1 2 4 10 14 21 29 37 47 53 10----------------------Trim Elevator 1RX1=0 1 4 6 11 16 23 32 42 53 66 0----------------------Trim Rudder 1Y=1 0 0 0 13 38 64 88 100 100 100 0---------------------Brakes Quote
delta7 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Posted September 8, 2006 http://www.mission4today.com/index.php? ... ls&id=1021 is the new profiler @doubletap - you are very like me mate -we seem to trial a lot of things to try to improve -its addictive sometimes -If from what Iv read the control setup is as follows the responce on an axis is divided into 10 bands each band is responsable for controlling over a set range of the joysticks axis movement. the first band the first 10 % of movement the second band the second 10% etc within each band there is a % control from 0 to 100. this converts the input to response (output to control surfaces) so a 10 % setting only allow 10% max response output within this band e.g. for every 10% input you get 1% output. all 100 will be a 1 to 1 reponse to stick input-the lower the figure the lower the response or output e.g 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 over the 1st 10% movement I will only get a 50% output-halve what I input the 2nd 10% I will get 55% output etc hope that helps Quote
Blairgowrie Posted September 8, 2006 Posted September 8, 2006 That be the one. Many thanks Dazza and Shadow. Quote
1. DDz Quorum B16Enk Posted September 8, 2006 1. DDz Quorum Posted September 8, 2006 MSFFB2 - all at default. X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0 Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0 Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 FF=1 CH Pedals, CH Pro Throttle and CH Throttle Quad....no idea which one is which U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 1X=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 1Y=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 11 1RZ=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1X1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Y1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Z1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1X2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Y2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Z2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1X3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Y3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1Z3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1RX3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1RY3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1RZ3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 Quote
BBloke Posted September 9, 2006 Posted September 9, 2006 My X45 settings: [rts_joystick] X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0 Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0 Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 FF=0 U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 1X=0 25 27 32 38 45 54 65 76 87 100 0 1Y=0 25 27 32 38 45 54 65 76 87 100 0 1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1RZ=0 1 4 7 11 18 27 38 48 70 100 0 1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1X1=0 25 27 32 38 45 54 65 76 87 100 0 1Y1=0 25 27 32 38 45 54 65 76 87 100 0 1RX1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1RZ1=0 1 4 7 11 18 27 38 48 70 100 0 1U1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 1V1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 I have an MSFFB which started higher on the scale. 45 I think. Had to do something to fight the feedback. I've had major trouble with the MSFFB and Evo Force sticks which have prevented me using them. Elevator authority seemed way off and I ended up stalling out at the peak of loops etc. Wing dips in turns seemed to be far more aggresive too. I would love to use the sticks again but I'd loose too many buttons close at hand. Quote
DoubleTap Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021 is the new profiler @doubletap - you are very like me mate -we seem to trial a lot of things to try to improve -its addictive sometimes -If from what Iv read the control setup is as follows the responce on an axis is divided into 10 bands each band is responsable for controlling over a set range of the joysticks axis movement. the first band the first 10 % of movement the second band the second 10% etc within each band there is a % control from 0 to 100. this converts the input to response (output to control surfaces) so a 10 % setting only allow 10% max response output within this band e.g. for every 10% input you get 1% output. all 100 will be a 1 to 1 reponse to stick input-the lower the figure the lower the response or output e.g 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 over the 1st 10% movement I will only get a 50% output-halve what I input the 2nd 10% I will get 55% output etc hope that helps Dave, I am sure it will when I am able to sit down and mess around with them again. Thanks. Quote
delta7 Posted January 24, 2007 Author Posted January 24, 2007 Im back at all 100s with 46 and feel it is better Quote
Rattler Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 I tend to like a more sensitive input as well, Dave. I haven't checked mine lately though. Will post later.... Quote
DZ9 Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 Yep 100 across the board for me too at least you are starting with max input so even if its not optimum, its unlikely to be a deficency Quote
lil_sparrow Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 Salute: I have a CH Fighterstick, throttle, & pedals. Quote
delta7 Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 @ lil sparrow - you can adjust the way the game reacts to your joystick input by changing the values in the config file or easier by using the utility beebop listed - I fly with all 100s which means a direct linear reply to my input others tone it down to allow for wobble or better feel - it is a personal thing Quote
Knight Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 im not sure i totally understand...100 all over would be, if i move my stick a tiny eeny bit left, the plane would react the same, but with some of the settings, it tones down the movement, so real small movements take a while to get to the plane? I hope some of that makes sense to someone...i have a x52 stick and only one set of settings for it have been posted. Quote
BBloke Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 Well I dont know the easiest way to describe it other than all 100's is more reactive but not in the sense of flicking a switch. Quote
Knight Posted April 28, 2007 Posted April 28, 2007 spot on BBloke, thats helped me understand that perfectly, i think ill try the x52 settings in this thread and see how i get on Quote
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