It wasn't going to be all dogfighting if I understand Fen's first post - yeah, some of that by all means but away from the field and only between people who have agreed to be combatants - I have enough trouble getting up and down safely in DCS without wanting to make it any more difficult by adding bullets into the mix. So people who want to learn to fly the these beasties and those that want a scrap can do so all at the same time - I suspect with the numbers using DCS you're going to struggle to get more than a 2v2 in the early days at any rate,