Friar

So there were no comments of performance issues last night however, It was a quiet night last night, peek players was probably only 3 or 4 and no real heavy action going on. So difficult to say definitely its the Gulf map. I have created the two missions I mentioned so will look to test them.

I will check that out FT on the forums.

Well, we will run the Normandy map this evening which does not have the phantom or DML. We will see how that goes. If it is smooth with no issues I will modify my Persian Gulf map to take out the Phantom. If it is still the same I will make a clean mission with no DML and put the Phantom back in.

Just seen this in the DML thread, perhaps a cause of some of our issues?

That is what I was thinking. Myself and Fruitbat are playing at the moment so I will put the Gulf map up to test. Thanks anyway. Hopefully speak tomorrow, unless you want to pop into TS now to say Hi

Thanks FT, that is what I was thinking. I might put the Gulf map up this evening just for testers.

sorry FT just went to server and see the update is still running.

ok thanks, so that is how you have to do it, with a specific command.

I added the Normandy mission to the list but could not load it as I assume the map has not been added to the new install? How do you add the map then? or do you not need to and something else is wrong? Am TS now

I am not able to open game on server? FT - advice please?

I am just trying to add the Normandy map in? so I can put the mission up to see if it is my persian gulf map? I assume I start the game on the server and then add the map? Just tried to run the game up (not ded server) on the server and the game crashed. Will try again.

I am just updating my machine now. Once done I will tweak the mission to add the new 'chopper and put the mission up.

I echo what Fruitbat says, many thanks for your time FT. Lets see what happens in the patch today. If it is still the same I think my plan would be. 1. Produce a version of the same map without the F4 just to see if it is that. 2. If no improvement I will produce a map with no DML in case one of the scripts has broken DCS with too many checks/cycles etc (although exactly the same mission was run by Wingflyr on his server with seemingly no issues.)

I think we could leave mods off the server? They get added to the mission files and users must have them installed anyway.

Hi @FoolTrottel Thanks for the update. When I said I have disabled the mods I meant that I removed them from my mission so that they are not required. That mission will not have the Phantom? or any of the DML scripts. Could it be that combination, or the last patch doing something to the Persian Gulf Map or solar flares or BREXIT or.... Perhaps a full clean re-install (of DCS) is overdue? There is a patch due out tomorrow BTW. Do we have the mods on the server then? Is there a benefit to that?

@FoolTrottel @B16Enk Since the last patch we seem to be having some issues with the performance of the DCS server. We are seeing a noticeable drop in frames @fruitbat always has his frame counter on and has noticed the difference as well as other reporting issues. I have run a repair on the server which does not seem to have made any differences. I have removed all mods and scaled back some of my DML modules, problem still seems to be there. I sent @wingflyr the current Persian Gulf map mission we most often use on the server and he hosted it on his box and we connected and found no issues with the frames, thus ruling out the mission? It has been suggested we perhaps do a clean install of DCS (especially as the versions of open beta and stable have now merged so only one is required? @B16Enk Have you completed the changes you talked about combining servers only recently, could this be a cause of the performance drop? I was thinking of doing a version without the Phantom to see if that is the issue but the same mission with them in worked fine on @wingflyr server? Friar.

UPDATE 31ST MAY 2024 Persian Gulf Map 10:00 Only Reduced effect of fuel tanker explosion Added new small outpost south east of airfield with troop pickup available.

Nice work on the back story delta. Just a quick question do you send Deacon this by email as he and his guys may not have visibility?

Just grabbed this screen shot from the live feed

UPDATE 27th MAY 2024 Persian Gulf Map 10:00 Only Changed F10 "Other" Menu structure to include new target practice option. Split option to spawn in active AI from East or West zone to its own menu option. Created new option for A2A Target Practice. Added option to spawn in 4 x IL-76 as target practice as well as unarmed and armed Mig-21's.

Some pictures of the details inside the Apache engine;

UPDATE 24TH MAY 2024 Following the "hic-ups" last night I have just uploaded a new mission to the server with the following changes. Please test if you can either today or over the weekend. Persian Gulf Map 10:00 Only Removed ALL mods; A4-E, Bronco, Hercules, UH-60L (its only 3 weeks to the CH-47, I can wait..) You may need to back-up and remove them from your local install as well (or just unload if you use JSGME or similar) for a full test if you still get some performance issues. Scaled back the DML additions Removed the Bombing Range logic Removed the Owned Zones logic Changed back the deployed helicopter troops logic

UPDATE 23RD MAY 2024 Persian Gulf Map 10:00 Only Added Phantom Updated some features of DML Added new Bombing Range located just South West of the airfield. This will report your accuracy. Added 3 new zones that can be captured with ground troops. Laying foundations for a possible on going campaign. Added flyable Hercules for cargo dropping practice. This map does not have limited resources at air fields yet.

Muscle memory should tell you where all the common options go (gear, flaps, trim, rudder, pitch, roll, counter measures, brakes, comms menu etc). Mapping them again really does not take that long. And with the F4 there are also many many more we will all have restless nights over thinking where can I put this or would it be better moving that from here to there!

UPDATE 22nd May 2024 Syria Map 10:00 Only Added F4-E (Phantom) to main base plus also Cyprus Added 3 new zones that can be captured with ground troops. AI will try and re-capture them. (ground work for my own dynamic campaign)