F16 bombing

[delta7]

Any good advice/ tutorials for F16 - asking for a friend 😚

[Crash]

Grim Reapers and Chucks Guide will help

[fruitbat]

@delta7

If you want to save yourself a lot of time, I can go through with you what are particular things you really need to have mapped to your hotas, and what isn't as important,  plus cockpit setup.

Plus anything else really. But if you don't want to go down that route,  grim reapers vids will be ok.

I am actually around this evening,  and was going to ask colin if he wanted to fly anyways,  if you happen to be free. 

[delta7]

Thanks I have found some,

@fruitbatdon't think I will make tonight but might pick your brains later if that's ok

 

[fruitbat]

19 minutes ago, delta7 said:

Thanks I have found some,

@fruitbatdon't think I will make tonight but might pick your brains later if that's ok

 

Sure, no problem.

[Crash]

Does your friend like it?

[delta7]

16 hours ago, Crash said:

Does your friend like it?

Yes it's good learning basics and how to do air to air

[Friar]

Did "your friend" buy it or does he have it on trial?

[delta7]

My friend had to break open the piggy bank and dust off his finest Scottish pound notes to purchase this 

[BluBear]

Welcome to the Viper club Dave('s friend), you won't regret it!

[Friar]

11 hours ago, BluBear said:

you won't regret it!

Surely "he won't regret it BB?

Ok, I think this "joke" has gone on long enough.

The F16 Delta will give you so many many more options in the DCS missions we fly, even I am aware of that.

Some say you are managing weapons systems as well as flying but the satisfaction of being able to take out a target from 20,000 feet IS very satisfying when you have done the work to make it happen.  

[Squee7e]

I know another person who bought the F-16 after he had enough of getting shot down in the sluggish Su 25T when doing SEAD missions over and over again 😉

I've heard he will join you once he finds time to fly again and has prepared the basic controls

[fruitbat]

36 minutes ago, Squee7e said:

I know another person who bought the F-16 after he had enough of getting shot down in the sluggish Su 25T when doing SEAD missions over and over again 😉

I've heard he will join you once he finds time to fly again and has prepared the basic controls

Good man!

Want any help or have any questions, feel free to ask

[BluBear]

Viper Squad: GO!

[delta7]

I have some idea of air to air and harm useage, Id like to know what are the most useful bombing techniques to know

thanks

[fruitbat]

5 hours ago, delta7 said:

I have some idea of air to air and harm useage, Id like to know what are the most useful bombing techniques to know

thanks

Depends on what bombs....

For Snake eyes and dive bombing you want to be in CCIP (easy and very effective with dumb bombs), for level (ish) bombing on a waypoint or dropping LGB's on a target in your TGP you want either DTOS or CCRP (function very similar, DTOS allows more flexibility with designating, particularly using the Helmet). 

There is also a hybrid CCIP/CCRP mode which can be useful for dropping LGB's onto a target your being talked onto and don't want to get to low to, but we'll leave that for now.

This thread I did a couple of years ago walks you through LGB's (also has an extensive part on the HTS pod and HARM's in it). LGB's are bread and butter bombs, and you don't even need to lase them yourselves with helicopters around, one thing i would learn though if you are going to drop bombs with other people lasing for you is how to quickly enter a new steerpoint into the DED, its actually very easy and can be done in 30 secs or so.....

JDAMs and other GPS weapons work in two different modes, PRE for launching on a steer point, or VIS for using the helmet to designate an area on the ground before using the TPOD to fine tune before dropping.

JDAMs are an incredibly powerful and quick way to get warheads on foreheads quickly, and up to 4 in 1 pass on 4 different targets once you are proficient, but not suitable for moving targets.  

Basically, a JDAM is going to land wherever your Tpod is looking, whether via steerpoint, helmet cuing, HUD or HTS pod,  as long as you are in release constraints. You will need to learn your Tpod unless you get co-ordinates from another source (can easily be sent via datalink from one F-16 to another...).

 

If you learn how to drop LGB's and JDAM's and understand CCIP functionality you will be able to drop every type of bomb ordnance, only types of Air to Ground weapons that the F-16 has that are employed differently than these 3 methods are Mavericks and Harms.

I would start with LGB's, that knowledge base will then help with progressing to JDAM's, or if you want to start with dumb bombs, start with CCIP bombing.

 

Here's a  quick little demo of CCIP bombing, put the thing on the thing...... (can I get direct hits every time, no, but I'll be close every time. If you set up a good approach you are 90% there though, throttle back and speedbrakes out in the dive). If you do CCIP bombing with CBU 97's you will make a real mess on enemy positions.

 

Here a silly vid I made several years ago showing the carnage you can do with CBU97's, (CBU 105's are a GPS guided version of this weapon dropped the same way as JDAMs)  this run in a low level toss bombing in CCRP using a steer point... skip to the last minute and a half for the release and carnage (symbology of the drop has changed since this video was made, but same process).

 

 

[fruitbat]

@delta7

 

Here are a couple more vids, first one showing JDAMs in use,

 

 

This one shows a Laser guided bomb (GBU-12) on a moving target,