A Suggestion Regarding Bomb Drop 'issues' On Expert Mode

[FoolTrottel]

As of  - not sure - some HSFX version based on - not sure - 4.1x.x, we've seen weird things when dropping bombs on targets.

- Explosion timing differs for player and for viewer

- Bombs do not visually drop, but disappear in view of a viewer

- No Explosion at all

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So, here's what I'd like to suggest: Let's try for a while on non-expert mode...

 

Now, apart from looking/sounding more interesting than non-expert mode, I could not really tell what the differences are between them two.

 

Me thinks we started using it because of an SEOW?

 

Anyways, what do we think? Shall we give it a try?

 

Anybody aware of anything that will be significantly different when running non-expert mode?

 

(No, I did not want a poll, I want a discussion!    )

 

[Jabo]

I think there are some flight model changes

[Tolwyn]

From 4Shades:

"Fundamentally, Expert mode is about reworked flight models and some changes in ground and ship object parameter settings."

 

From this thread:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3850162/Re_Mod_HSFX7_released

[Jabo]

I for one would be happy to give it a try FT - it's not exactly a big ask.

[Crash]

What about trying it on Sunday, with a LOT of bombing missions?

[FoolTrottel]

Well, did some testing yesterday, with Sweper and Tolwyn.

 

Whatever version used (HSFX Expert/Non-Expert, 4.12.2m stock) every other bomb drop results in weirdness... Even with Bomb Fuze diff setting off (4.09m timing)

Also tried the Instant fuse...

 

At moment of dropping, a viewer does not see the bombs drop, does not see any splash of the bombs hitting water, does not see the explosion, or, explosion occurs at a different moment.

Even when I saw Sweper flying through Tolwyn's bombs-explosion-water-fountain, Sweper him self did not see/feel that explosion.

(That was just after one explosion/splash of Tolwyn's bombs took me out )

 

It's all a bit weird.

 

Could it be packet loss? 

The moment/fact the ordnance is dropped is missed by the client, and thus it does not see the bombs drop/hit/explode?

 

Could be, but why can't I remember seeing it happen on earlier versions? (like 4.09m-ish?)

[Crash]

I have just asked at 242 Sqd maybe they might know something.

[FoolTrottel]

I have just asked at 242 Sqd maybe they might know something.

Good one... thanks Crash!

[Friar]

answer from shades: "Mod mismatch between players."

[FoolTrottel]

answer from shades: "Mod mismatch between players."

Yeah, well, that is to be expected, we're the dangerdogz after all ...

[Crash]

Right then which mods will we use?

[FoolTrottel]

Kinda weird that this also happens at 4.12.2m stock, although we used JSGME to run it...   

HSFX history mod

EXPERT mode

Perfect Map Textures

[Crash]

Lets stick at that then.

[fruitbat]

Waaa waaaa I want my hakenkreuz on my german planes

[Crash]

OK with me BUT we ALL must have it switched on

[Jabo]

I was wondering who'd be first - Kev wins!

 

More seriously - Perhaps we should consider all running the same Net speed (set in conf.ini) too. Word on the street is that a low net speed (mine was 5000 - and I don't see long range tracer, flak bursts etc etc) may result in loss of low-priority packets and therefore may mean that certain low-priority events are not seen at the client end. I've upped mine to 10000 temporarily so will report back on the effect (if any).

 

Jabo

[FoolTrottel]

HSFX history mod

EXPERT mode

Perfect Map Textures

Hakenkreuz Enabler

SOUNDS default

[fruitbat]

Lol, not a chance ft, but nice try!

[FoolTrottel]

Darn! 

[BadAim]

I can't imagine the haken mod causing bomb drop issues on any planet. Sound on the other hand.......

 

 

 

P.S. If a bomb drops in the water and no one sees it explode, did it really happen? Very Zen.

[delta7]

 

HSFX history mod

EXPERT mode

Perfect Map Textures

Hakenkreuz Enabler

SOUNDS default

 

+1 LOL 

 

or perhaps maybe ......................................................................................no mods at all      

[Tonar]

LOL Dave !!!