BluBear Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Regular to Flying Legends (down to display again this year) has had a serious incident at a show in France. Prop strike early on in the take off run causes the Mk XIX to flip onto it's back. Reports indicate the pilot is injured but will be ok and a member of the crowd was hurt by flying shards of wood from the propeller. Video here, shocking lack of emergency cover... http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?142549-Serious-Spitfire-crash-in-France Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 12, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 12, 2017 Is that the griffon one that used to have the contra-prop? Nasty prang but you're right, the emergency response was not exactly rapidSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
1. DDz Quorum Painless Posted June 12, 2017 1. DDz Quorum Posted June 12, 2017 Bloody hell ! Lack of crowd control, firefighting equipment and ambulance is as you say Chris, "shocking" ! Quote
BluBear Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Jabo said: Is that the griffon one that used to have the contra-prop? Nasty prang but you're right, the emergency response was not exactly rapid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Yes mate, owned by Christophe Jacquard I believe. I think it's been at Legends most years in the last decade. Lots of questions over whether it should have been operating off grass in the first place. It had a similar mishap a few years ago, clipping the grass on landing rollout sending shards flying. Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 12, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 12, 2017 Hmmm, IIRC the griffon spits operate from the hard runway unless it's been particularly dry.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
BluBear Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jabo said: Hmmm, IIRC the griffon spits operate from the hard runway unless it's been particularly dry. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Indeed, at DX they have always operated them on the hard from what I remember. Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 12, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 12, 2017 I believe I have a photo of JE-J taking off from the grass but that's the only time I can recall it happening.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
CaptJackG Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Are his flaps down? They look to be extended for takeoff. Quote
BluBear Posted June 15, 2017 Author Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, CaptJackG said: Are his flaps down? They look to be extended for takeoff. No, i'd say they're just protruding post impact as the wings have been creased backwards, probably breaking the spar in the process. Spitfire flaps are either fully down or up and only used for landing. Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 15, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 15, 2017 +1. The general consensus seems to be that the main spar was broken when the torque generated by the prop strike threw the wing into the ground. I'd say this one will be down for a very long timeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted June 15, 2017 1. DDz Quorum Posted June 15, 2017 Main spar broken? Oh dear... Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 15, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 15, 2017 Not confirmed FT, just speculation at this stageSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
CaptJackG Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 If you look at 3:25 they are down before the prop strike. I'm wondering if he was thinking about putting them down to get light on the gear for the grass field takeoff. Quote
DD_Arthur Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I don't think I can see flaps down Jack. I can see those two big radiators and the flaps on those are fully open. Found this; Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted June 16, 2017 2. Administrators Posted June 16, 2017 Judging by that, the spar in the starboard wing does look like it's broken, the wing has collapsed on that side when the aircraft comes to rest. You can see the prop blade that caused the injury in the crowd fly off early onSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
CaptJackG Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Definitely not down, such a beautiful plane to lose. Hopefully the pilot is ok. Quote
BadAim Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 That was painful to watch. If the IL2 version of the griffon Spittie is any indication, taking off from perfectly flat concrete is plenty dangerous enough, grass is just slightly suicidal. It looks like she's going to be hors de combat for a while. 1 Quote
DD_Bongodriver Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Interestingly I got to hear from an official source the cause of this misshap, nothing to do with grass or brakes, the pilot who is a very experienced Sea Fury driver completely ignored/forgot the advice to not open the taps fully on a Griffon engine and simply torqued himself into the dirt. Same source also showed me the wreck which is at ARC Duxford being rebuilt for the owner. Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted November 22, 2017 2. Administrators Posted November 22, 2017 Thanks for the update Bongo - you planning to extend your twin rating to include the Blenheim? Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted November 22, 2017 2. Administrators Posted November 22, 2017 There’s a word I’m looking for here, now what is it...oh yes, GIT! You lucky, lucky bastage. There’s not many that have sat there.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
2. Administrators Jabo Posted November 23, 2017 2. Administrators Posted November 23, 2017 Love the tax disc! Thanks for posting the in-cockpit photos Bongo - it's a thing of beauty for sure in there! 1 Quote
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