sged Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Came across this pic on youtube.....looks like a KI-type (maybe given by Japan in some exchange program?), but I'm not sure...anyone know? Quote
GreyKnight Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Is that one of those Italian planes? MC205 or something? Just guessing. Quote
Rattler Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Yeah, it's the Heinkel fighter. Many think it is the influence for the Ki-61 Tony Quote
Dubbo Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Beautiful aircraft with an interesting history. Beebop skinned a Tony for me to look like one for an aborted Heinkel factory defence mission I was trying to make. IIRC, there is a connection between the Tony and the He100 but the Japanese had to redesign a lot of the aircraft. I believe the original aircraft was designed as a super-pursuit fighter and the design goal was supposed to be something like 700kph. It had a lot of streamling design stuff tried out on it particularly a wing surface cooling sustem - but these systems proved vulnerable in a fighter and unreliable to boot. Japan had bought jigs for the He100 and kawasaki was building the DB engines but the jigs never arrived - The Ki61 is considered to be heavily influenced by the design of the He100, even the one of the prototypes had the surface cooling system but the Japanese too abandoned the idea for a more traditional radiator. Skin by Beebop Quote
sged Posted June 29, 2007 Author Posted June 29, 2007 Wow, thx for the info....knew about some curious planes the Germans made, but never heard of this one...great info! Quote
Dubbo Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Here are some more pics - some show the early prototypes of which Udet set a speed record in. Later Hans Dieterle set the absolute speed record of 746kph in 1939 - in the 8th prototype. The museum shot is actually a replica buit from scratch (from original plans) and donated by a fellow wtih the strangely familiar name of George Lucas (no relation) - he did some others too a 109, 163 and a Natter - And he then donated them to the Chino museum. The night figher pic (indeed the first 3 below) was a propaganda pic and was identified as a He113. The world believed the propaganda and a number of He113s were "shot down" during the Battle of Britian. (The He100s were moved from field to field, painted with different schemes and numbers and photographed as many different squadrons) Sged, your pic is also a propaganda pic. Pretty successful ruse actually. Ernst Udet told Heinkel, after watching the 109 fly and the interest expressed in Messerschmit's design, to concentrate on bombers only. Had the ministery chosen the Heinkel design instead, it may have proven to be a very successful fighter. Quote
Guest Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Yep I have seen this plane on the history channel with jap markings but not German but had to be built by german's Quote
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