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    Flying Legends 2019 was the last at Duxford

    in Jim's Place

    Posted

    Guys, let's try not to head towards Daily Mail comments territory. We're all saddened and angry at the news, but no-one is tearing down statues of Douglas Bader or airbrushing out the word War here.

    From everything I've read about it, this has more to do with money than anything else. Reportedly Legends nearly didn't happen for a number of the most recent years due to breakdown in negotiations with IWM. Remember when the dates mysteriously changed a year or two ago?

    The current IWM management seem to have been angling at getting their hands on the Summer slot for years so they can put on another bland 'air fair' style show and take all of the profit.

    Also, if Flying Legends does end up moving somewhere like mainland Europe (TFC have strong links with La Ferte Alais), you have to look at the CAA and their post-Shoreham knee jerk actions that have done more damage to the UK airshow scene than any protest.

     

     

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    Flying Legends 2019 was the last at Duxford

    in Jim's Place

    Posted

     

    Just now, DD_Bongodriver said:

    Can't see it being practical, Air Ambulance and police helicopters might not be compatible. proximity to Stansted and surrounding airspace are issues.

    I was about to say the same, along with the locals who I understand also contributed to the cessation of air displays there a decade or more ago.

    Flying Legends 2019 was the last at Duxford

    in Jim's Place

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    Just now, Painless said:

    Thanks BB........ 
    “I guess it’s all about the money then ?” 

    Do you think !?

    Yeah it seems that could be the driving factor. Reportedly it was touch and go whether FL would be at DX the last few years as negotiations were somewhat rocky.
    From the greedy bastard's IWM's perspective, TFC taking a significant cut of such a huge event every summer must have smarted.

    At least TFC for the time being will remain at Duxford, this is positive news at least. And really, who knows what next year will bring!

     

    Flying Legends 2019 was the last at Duxford

    in Jim's Place

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    As a DX insider Bongo, what have you heard? Is it a disagreement with IWM?

    30 minutes ago, DD_Bongodriver said:

    Where will it go?

    My guesses:

    Sywell or Headcorn.

    I think Sywell is a good shout from what I've seen of the place online; decent facilities for the public i'm told, with Grace's hangars for visiting aircraft and inevitable tech gremlins .
    Although having never actually been I've no idea how well the infrastructure and surrounding area would cope with the numbers? 

    And as much as I'd love Legends to be on my doorstep, I can't see how Headcorn could handle said numbers of people or indeed aircraft. Just think how long that flight line stretches out...
    The relatively small Aero Legends BofB show can cause havoc around the tight country roads as it is. Unless they significantly scaled down the scope? No heavies etc?

    I don't think they'll find a venue to match DX, certainly not in this country. Also, it's become such a large commercial venture under the helm of Grey Jr. it surely has to come close to DX in size to be viable?

     So maybe that's the point. We could see Legends move to the US or elsewhere in Europe?

    Flying Legends 2019 was the last at Duxford

    in Jim's Place

    Posted

    This makes me tremendously sad. 😢

    I hope the team can find a suitable venue, preferably somewhere with an historic connection.

    Regardless, it'll never be the same again.

    Here's to the memories!

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    A message from Nick Grey

    Dear Friends of Flying Legends,

    I look at this and the years gone by with immense gratitude for all the wonderful moments we have lived with you our faithful and fanatical community. It is with a heavy heart that we confirm 2019 was the final Flying Legends with our friends at IWM Duxford. We truly hope that our team will find an alternative location to welcome this iconic event and that we will have the privilege of seeing you all again. Thank you for your support and kindness.

    Yours sincerely Nick

     

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    PWCG P-38 Lightning Strikes Co-op Campaign

    in IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles Series

    Posted

    14 hours ago, DD_Fenrir said:

    2nd Lt. Casey Baker miraculously survived a head on collision with a Fw 190A-8. Knocked completely unconscious and trapped in the falling wreckage Baker had a million-to-one shot when remains of his aircraft hit the steep slope of a tall river bank and slid into a muddy, silty bog at the bottom. He was rescued by friendly ground troops and taken to a nearby aid station. Apart from a light concussion he suffered no further injury! Some one get that guy a lottery ticket!

    I will never miss another Sunday Mass; It's a Miracle!

    Well done chaps, glad you made a success of it whilst I sipped on muddy bog juice.

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    PWCG P-38 Lightning Strikes Co-op Campaign

    in IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles Series

    Posted

    Whilst I was hoping that my collisions only occurred in the dream world, I am of course pleased that we may have ironed out the combat report gremlins and glad to see it all went through.

    Well done 402nd for hitting some key targets and keeping things together on what was a fun and hair-raising little post-drop fur ball.

    Chris Blooblair sends his apologies to Jasper Jacobsen for the un-sighted bell flop in the face, typically when the 'threats' had been dealt with. At least we survived, that's something! 

     

    2nd Lt Casey Baker reporting for duty Sir!

    PWCG P-38 Lightning Strikes Co-op Campaign

    in IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles Series

    Posted

    Aha, so my initial recollection was mostly correct.

    I would conclude then that on my part, a combination of target fixation and you being almost certainly obscured by my canopy frame for the majority of the collision course.
    And judging by that last footage, I was certainly hidden under your nose so we were both blissfully unaware of our impending 'amalgamation'.  🥴

    Fascinating stuff really! You can only imagine just how difficult it was to achieve accurate combat reporting at the time.

    S~ Sir!

    PWCG P-38 Lightning Strikes Co-op Campaign

    in IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles Series

    Posted

    Spectacular! Thanks Arthur and Jabo.

    It's all a little hazy, but If I recall, I was climbing up onto a bandit travelling in the opposite direction to this one with a single '38 long to it's six not in firing range. You can tell by my behaviour I am blissfully unaware of you Arthur!

    I didn't even see you until the very split second before we collided. Looking at the angles, I suspect you were obscured by the canopy framing for most of the collision course and I was fixated on my target.

    Having said that, perhaps I misjudged the angles and what I was actually pursuing was your 190 and all I could see was Jabo's '38 as you were obscured?

    Any chance we could see it from my perspective? I'd be interested to see how it differs from my recollection!

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