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Thanks Craven, you guys have already been through the same thought process that we are currently wrestling with and had a positive outcome. Some of us are pretty old dogz and don't like learning new tricks and it sounds like you had similar issues. Again, thanks for sharing your squads story, it is both relevant and useful sir. Painless.

Interesting reading this thread, for many IL2 is still number one for the time being. CLOD has a fair following also. We accommodate both of these sims with dedicated sessions. DCS is flown on an individual session basis as and when, which seems to work. BOS/ BOX seems to be the favorite to replace IL2 when we have or want to do so perhaps at some point in the future we might consider converting Tuesday sessions over to this sim ? This would give those who already have and fly BOS/BOX a squad session and I suspect might encourage some of us (myself included), to upgrade hardware and/or purchase the necessary software for the sake of inclusivity ? This would also provide a transition /familiarisation period for as long as we like. Opinions ?............

Sidly has summed up perfectly how I feel also.

We have already acknowledged the fact that we need to move with the times to some degree. CLOD has taken the place of IL2 on Thursdays and it needed to due to popular demand. For me, as long as the squad, ( an online group of well established friends), share whatever flight sim on whatever day I will be happy. Tom makes some very good points about the future of IL2 and I share Swoops love for the variety it offers. From what I have heard DCS is probably the best flight sim on offer but maybe not the best thing to replace IL2 if and when we need to because of its complexity. I have no expieriance of BOS or BOX but it sounds like it might be a possibility along with CLOD if it expands. As Tom has asked, everyone needs to express an opinion here so we know where we are...... Painintheass : )

Looks like fun Col, you were very polite ! Lol

Bloody funny !

That really does look excellent Arjen. Clever Clogs ! ??

I want one ! Sadly no money or sense here....

Just had a slightly radical idea about mission format..... Each side has a home base defended by AAA, each side has an enemy ground target defended by AAA. You MUST land at home base to secure any points you have from ground kills but here is the difference.... ground targets will NOT have air cover, however you may try and stop enemy aircraft from landing and securing their points if you wish. A plane is safe once it's wheels are on the ground so a quick landing is essential. Might make for some excitement ! This will make a strategy decision necessary whether to just do a ground attack and land ASAP or whether to do a ground attack and then proceed to the enemy home base for an intercept and risk loosing your acquired ground attack points through air to air attack or AAA. You could also choose to send a fighter or two to hang around the enemy air base to intercept but they would not score any ground attack points of course. Ground attack will still require some skilled teamwork because of the AAA. What do you think ?

A battle along the lines of Midway springs to mind for this type of event Dave. Two carriers on each side, attack and defence. Navigation skills and teamwork required. Carrier landing practice anyone ? Lol Maybe two hours duration ? F4U s can carry enough ordinance to do the job if the carriers are moving fast enough for a "heavy" take off. More time for team briefing might help because we is the Dogz innit.....

That is very touching FT, I always liked the Dutch m8... ??

Does your pub have a name like "The Bridge Tavern" or something ?

Are you going to weather it all to look old and shift ?

Some have two uprights some have three , wood shortage or accurate ? ?

Fancy getting your mouldy jiggers mixed up FT ! Lol Glad your pinky is ok now OUCH !!!

Good show, none of the voices in my head disagree !

Looking very good so far Arjen, are you sure your mother never had you tested mate ? ?

Very clever Arjenski !

They take years to make , beautiful.

If all goes well I will be there chaps. I also want to go to the LeMans 24 hour if I can. It's a bucket list thang...

Excellent pictures Nick thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed your visit Delta, shame I missed the chance to meet you after all these years. Just read the airshows forum link Chris, plenty of bitching going on I see !! State of the nation mate : ( Was bongo really the best looking pilot there chaps ? LOL