Leaderboard

Debrief 410th BG What started as a flight of four A20s soon became a flight of three as unfortunately Sheriff encountered a recurring technical issue that prevents him from moving beyond the hangar. I really hope you can get it resolved mate. The 410th BG were given transport and road targets at Remegan so the usual load of 100% fuel and twenty 200lb bombs were loaded with a view to level bombing with a two second bomb 'walk' over the target. Cloud base was below 6000ft so the climb out and rendezvous with Spitfires relatively close to Eindhoven was a simple task as we didn't need to go higher than cloud base. The rendezvous was made and waypoints followed towards target. It was decided to give ourselves a long line up before bombing so once a suitable turn point was reached all three bombers lined up on target. Visibility was good and the Remegan river was spotted in plenty of time. As our target was very close to the 402nd's ground attack area I checked in with FT and advised our time on target. He agreed to hold off until we had dropped and were making our way out. On the way a flight of EA was spotted but they left us alone. On arrival at the target area it was pleasing to note that no flak was present. Delta and Crash dropped and started the damage below, Sid dropped and did more. Delta had bombs left and, due to the absence of flak, made two low level runs over the targets causing more damage. I will say that both Crash and delta acted according to the brief and did not attempt to drop on the tempting target of a train in the station that was to be attacked by 402. Well done lads for showing great restraint. A successful attack, well done 410th. Three aircraft left the area and it was handed over to the 402nd. On the way back a dogfight was encountered well into friendly lines so all aircraft went low to avoid collateral damage. All three aircraft returned to Eindhoven. Great job boys!

VICTORY IS MINE!!!! Or, more accurately, victories are now FTs and Reggies. Only took four hours. I will complete the forum debrief when I have re-invigorated my stocks of give-a-sh*t, 'cause right now I'm fresh out.

Understood Reggie but it was the kind of thing that would haunt my dreams in the small hours, particularly as it was my absent-mindedness to blame. My own eye for detail would cause this to gnaw at my soul henceforth, so it was as much to save my own sanity as to see justice done to two hard working virtual pilots. Besides, if Painless thought for even a moment that the 485th was being denied legitimate kills, he and Artie would break out the tin-foil hats and cries of "CONSPIRACY" would forever plague our Teamspeak channel. Thusly it is better for us all that I did this!

Are you in the same squad as us.....same universe....?

Join in..... Ohhh Jingle bells Painless yells The planes don't come our waaaay... 402 run into them Every feckin' daaaay..... Dashing through the snowwwww In a one horse feckin' showwwww Over flak we fly Most of us do die.... Searching high and low The Jerries they don't showwwww So we drop our bombs instead And lawn dart as we go Ohhhhhhhh Jingle bells Painless yells The planes don't come our waaaay... 402 run into them Every feckin' daaaay.... Fighters over there.... In a distant square... Shall we join the chase? I really couldn't care... 402 are close never feckin' mind... Let's just go home to the mess and genterly unwind... Ohhh Jingle bells Painless yells The planes don't come our waaaay... 402 run into them Every feckin' daaaay.....

Here are some highlights from my perspective. Nothing as cinematic or interesting as the videos BluBear and Perf posted, but you can see me doing ground attack at and angle I had no right to fly away from with just a broken prop [4:20], Friar singing [5:30], instrument flying through clouds with appallingly set up rudder trim [5:47], and a fast bouncy one-engined landing and pathetic taxiing attempt with some incriminating comms chatter in the background [6:30]. Also friendly reminder to myself and others, nicely lined up targets like that are made for two separate (ripple) bomb drops in succession, instead of dropping the pair in unison. Oh and question for BluBear, when you make those awesome videos, do you record a track and then record? Do tracks work as they should in GBS (they're near-useless in DCS)? I figure that would be a much better workflow than directly recording in-game with the UI and other ugliness getting in the way.

Thanks to all who attended last night gents, that was a pretty intense one! I had a lot of fun, hope you all did too. First thing I need to do is apologise profusely to both @FoolTrottel and @Reggie for missing their claims during the AAR process; as most of you know I normally ask if I have missed anyone before committing the info but last night having worked my way through all (I thought) of the personnel tabs in sequence I just forgot to do this usual last sanity check - I've got a lot on my mind regards work and home at the moment and I rushed it. I did spend 2 hours trying to correct the error manually last night by editing the various files, but thus far I've kept corrupting the campaign. I will keep trying but please bear with me.

Apparently, in the Luftwaffe during WW2 the issue of not having an Iron Cross when you really wanted one was referred to as 'throatache' - a similar malaise perhaps?

Wow, well done - honestly though I am not worried about how many kills I have or medals awarded or promotions won etc - so please don't feel bad about missing me out, or feel you need to put this amount of effort in to get my kill on the board. I am here for the banter, the jokes, the incredibly good looks of Mr Artage and Major Painless, the second to non flying skill of the whole 485th - and the fabulous singing voice of FT 😃 Anything on top of the above is a bonus. However, I do thank you hugely for the time and effort you put into this, not just the 4 hours for last night's op - but everything else I see you get done for DD - I know too well how much time, effort and schlepp (is that a word you use in the UK?) that is - and so often goes under-appreciated. So - for the record, I appreciate it 👍

402nd Debrief (disclaimer: my memory fails me - it's already bad at recording all these flashy events in proper order, but now, typing this after a day's work ... yeah... please forgive me. Just trying to do this so Fen does not have to spend the time ... Oh wait, this probably needs so many corrections... Oh well ... ) Started out with 8 aircraft, but lost Tbone (Red 4) right after spawning in due to technical issue. Set out east towards target. Our P47 escorts were soon with us. The plan was to have white flight attack targer first, 4x two pairs of 1000lbs bombs. On ingress, we met with some 190's, white flight took care of them, whilst keeping their bombs. Good job. Red flight kept flying towards target. Our escort P47 disappeared as soon as the enemy a/c showed up, never seen them back, they probably chased some back home (?) Over target, Red flight stayed over the clouds, waited for White to come in. White flight attacked the target and did good damage. Red flight then attacked. After all bombs were used, some repeated strafing attacks were performed on triple A guns and other items. (The 410th BG must have woken the AAA up when leaving the area I suppose ... because they were surely there!) White 4 got damaged, and returned home early, accompanied by White 3. (Or was it vv?) Return flight was messy, as we somehow all got split up. White 1 and 2 chasing bandits reported by White 3/4. Finding bandits here and there. Red 3 having a go at them 5x 110's up north ... Red 1 and 2 came across two 88's. Unfortunately, Red 2 was killed due to a collision, and probably wasn't able to bale out. No parachute was seen. Hectic radio traffic for a while. White 4 had to bale out of damaged a/c, inside our lines. I think. Landing was still fairly close together, time wise. Good job all... we killed it, and them! (Note to self; Need to improve, seem to keep losing the same wing man over and over again! Any volunteers?)

485th debrief: Six ship flight to patrol around an 8x8km area well behind enemy lines for air targets. Uneventful transition to our patrol area followed by a staggered altitude sweep for around 20 minutes with no joy on EA. Rox and myself descended to attack ground convoy with some success however Rox chopped the end off of a AAA gun barrel with his prop. Top marks for using every part of his aircraft to inflict harm on the Bosh ! This meant escorting Rox to friendly lines so he could return safely to home base which he did admirably. The remainder of 485th continued patrol with no joy. Rejoined Sqn and sent white flight down to attack ground targets. Received call to intercept air targets from 402nd but the location was some 80km away so declined invitation. Decided to head back to front lines to find more ground targets which we did with some success. Received another call, this time from Jabo stating 5x Bf 110 heading East approx 40km away. Set interception course and headed full speed with 5 remaining 485th aircraft. Found 5x Bf110 EA where expected so thanks to Nick for heads up ! Engaged and shot down 4 EA for the loss of Funflak to rear gunner return fire (we think). Remaining Bf110 was reserved for Friar as he hadn’t got a kill yet but unfortunately he had the smallest of brain farts causing a collision resulting in the destruction of both aircraft. Bloody shame as he had done a great job of leading White Flight for some weeks. Expecting a replacement flight leader ASAP! Returned home as a three ship flight without incident. Great job by both Artie and Reggie and I will be recommending promotion for both.

No worries sir... Stats are nice to have... The only one I think is relevant here is the one that shows 'Number of missions'

My new stick came!! The band is playing and a parade and ...... it's too tall to use on the desktop .. (music fades....) Something must be done! Should be about 2" lower, the desktop is an inch thick but my knee is almost underneath it already. Need a dish to mount the thing. Enter the pickup truck coil spring seat. Cut out the center and a few other places, add some holes and we have a mount. Cut a hole in the desk, put a few screws in and success!!! Learning to fly all over again.....

You forgot this line: "It's tin hats that we wear"

Dam right Thomas !!! 😁

Awesome and very useful Chris, thanks!

Cool vid Rox, I must remember to record TS as well to splice it in. Although, there's rarely any singing in the 402nd! Tracks + Fraps + Premiere. That is my method. Tracks do seem to be quite stable in GBS, more so than the old ntrks of '46 that seemed to deteriorate after time elapsed; although there is I believe a file size limit for a single track in GBS. I don't have any experience of DCS tracks so can't comment. I try to remember to hit record whenever there is action, then replay at a later date for screen and audio capture in Fraps. Here you can of course hide the UI / icons etc and 'Direct' your movie how you see fit. The FPS style free-roam camera is fantastic for getting some unusual angles.

As with anything involving PWCG, it's complicated... 😵

I may be missing something, but can these not be added on to the next AAR? Or do EA actually have to be destroyed in a mission in order to make a claim against it?

I am impressed by the incorporation of a coil spring seat, you don’t see that every day mate ! 👍🏻

Debrief from the 410th BG A flight of 3 A20s took off from Eindhoven and, showing great airmanship and engine management skills, carried out a steep climb out and up to the fighter rendezvous at 14,500ft together and with no engine overheating. We met the Spitfire escort and continued on to the target at Zulpich. The cloud above the cloud base at 10,000ft was dense and with virtually no visibility through it or adequate gaps it was decided to level bomb from just below the cloud base. The target was marked as being in the centre of Zulpich so our job was made easier as we had an obvious aiming point. The landmarks on the way were relatively easy to spot so we were able to give ourselves a good long line up and run in. A successful drop was made on the target and a large amount of railway rolling stock and facilities were destroyed hopefully disrupting the movements of the enemy troops in the area. One unfortunate occurrence was that whilst the Spitfires remained in our vicinity they were unable to intercept a lone Fw190 before it shot down 2nd Lt Dave Crosby whilst he was levelled out for the bomb run. They did, however, down it shortly afterwards. Thankfully Dave and his crew were able to bail out. They managed to evade capture and were eventually delivered back to Eindhoven for beer and steak! Well done! Frustrating though....lined up ready to drop and bang....next thing you know you're on the end of a 'chute. Well done 2nd Lt Dave Haggis for completing a bomb drop and getting back to Eindhoven....hope you bought the ground crew plenty of beer Well done 410BG, proud of you.