Gothkrieger Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Just picked up a MSFFB2, I hope it will work and is not busted. I did not get a software / install disk with it, just the stick. I run Windows XP. Do I have to hunt down drivers on the web or does Windows have what I will need? Do I have to activate it in IL2 somehow, a config file edit? I am still running my X45 throttle so I have the X45 stick hooked up as well, what do I do to make the MSFFB2 the primary or only joystick? Will I be able to program IL2's controls by just selecting a command and depressing a joystick button or will I have to have software installed (like my X45 does)? So in other words, Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_O_A_D Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Plug it in. Fire up game Set your axis commands to the MFFB Then test fly it, If you like it, use it as is. If its not quite to your liking, then you will need to adjust the sliders for Elevator, Aileron, and rudder to your liking. Just like you did or probably did with the X-45. I'm heading to work now. no time to expand on it any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum B16Enk Posted May 14, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted May 14, 2011 You only need the software if you want to map key combinations to buttons. Single key mapping requires no software, and is done within the controls section of IL2. Like TOAD says, plug it in and assign axis in game then enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyKnight Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 if you want to map the extra buttons to keyboard commands, you can use a free program called AutoHotKey. I use it to centre my view. http://www.autohotkey.com/download/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Have plugged the stick in and it seems to work fine. I have to figure out what to do to get the X45 throttle working, at the moment the Throttle is just acting as a button bay, the throttle, rudder are not responding at all. The throttle on base of MSFFB is actuating throttle in sim as well as twist of stick is actuating rudder and that’s not how I want it. Will I be able to sort this out in the control assignment part of the sim? What is Joystick 1, Joystick 2 etc. all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 if you want to map the extra buttons to keyboard commands, you can use a free program called AutoHotKey. I use it to centre my view. http://www.autohotkey.com/download/ Is AutoHotkey110000_Install the proper one to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted May 16, 2011 2. Administrators Share Posted May 16, 2011 When using two separate joysticks, it's a good idea to redo your axes assignments from scratch. So delete pitch and roll axes and assign them to the msffb. I don't understand why you wouldn't want the rudder on the twist axis unless you already have pedals. If you do though, delete the yaw assignment and reassign using the pedals. Ditto the throttle. Il2 will sort out which joystick it is automatically. For example, my sidewinder is stick 1, the x52 throttle quadrant stick 2 and the button bay prototype, stick 3. It all works nicely together. Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum B16Enk Posted May 17, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted May 17, 2011 rudder rocker on X52? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted May 17, 2011 2. Administrators Share Posted May 17, 2011 Sorry Rog, I don't quite understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Sorry Rog, I don't quite understand. X45 has a rudder rocker on the throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold_Gambler Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 So..... How are you getting on, Goth? Personally. I never installed the drivers that came with it or any 3rd party software for my MSFFB2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Have not had a chance to toy with it again. What little free time I get I try and fly rather than set things up. Yes, I know I am bad. Been thinking though, without any software do you have any control over how the force feedback reacts. I want it mainly for flight characteristics and not so much shaking all over when the guns are firing; my gunnery is not that good yet. I would think that without software of some kind you would get just what you would get, with no ability to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Before you start worrying about controlling force feedback etc I would try the stick as it is. You might not even want to turn forcefeedback on. Many of us haven't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Before you start worrying about controlling force feedback etc I would try the stick as it is. You might not even want to turn forcefeedback on. Many of us haven't Really! I thought that was the main point of getting the stick LOL. I didn't realize that the stick was that accurate as a control device as compared to other sticks that it would be desired for that reason alone. I know I will be giving up buttons that I am used to having on my stick to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum B16Enk Posted May 17, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted May 17, 2011 I fly with it on, the feedback is good, but toning down the gun and cannon forces is a must I would say. That said the quality of the stick is such that even with forces off it is superior to most other sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Sounds good to me. I see you can't do the 2 fingers on stick flying as it don't cover the sensor. I guess with FFB that would not be a good idea anyways. So to change gun feedback settings, is that in a config file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum B16Enk Posted May 17, 2011 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted May 17, 2011 I posted the zip file containing the configs in your other MSFFB2 topic, along with instructions. Would link you to it, but a couple (as in 2) glasses of wine and an epic battle (won) with installing server 2008 over the network on my own HP server have left me drained. Will happily give more guidance tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothkrieger Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 I have saved that info to my IL2 stuff directory, will track that down and have a look at it. Have basic MSFFB working with X45 unit, will fly it tonight to check it out. No force feedback for now. Baby steps; have to learn the buttons again. Would have preferred the hat switch in lower position rather than fire button, but what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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