Tribunus Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 This originated in Texas (naturally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 That guy is scary and needs a haircut and a shave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediteo Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Now that is scary, people actually think that? Concealed weapons for civilians, are they crazy? He seems to favour summary justice above all else. What ever happend to due process and the rule of law? 2000 years of mankinds finest philisophy sacrificed on the altar of I-wanna-have-a-gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sged Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Omg............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum FoolTrottel Posted August 8, 2009 1. DDz Quorum Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Ted? Is that you? 25 years ago I enjoyed listening to him.... well, to his music that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Pooka Posted August 8, 2009 1. DDz Quorum Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I really don't recall any of his songs, but there are probably a few I've listened to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleTap Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Since people feel like commenting on this... I am a card carrying member of the NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooly Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I agree with the 'I dont like repeat offenders, I like DEAD offenders' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Cultural divides are fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Without getting into a big debate, I also think a haircut and save would not be out of order. And I agree with most of what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfesser Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 The Constitution is a great document written by the people, for the people. The right to bear arms was written into the constitution for one reason. That the people would always have the means to overthrow the government if it no longer served the people of the United States. The carrying of concealed weapons is a different thing that I think only makes good people fear other people. Contrary to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There is something wrong with the justice system but it's the culture of fear that drives all of this. You could blame the Canadians but it probably has more to do with the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 We have professional(s) to deal with the tougher ... jobs, and they require more stringent testing and licensing, as do police. I have a VERY hard time trusting average people with firearms! Citizen justice is an absolute last resort. ~S~ Rattler Mate, have you ever seen an average policeman shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta7 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Since people feel like commenting on this... I am a card carrying member of the NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer57 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 ONE MAJOR THING EVERYONE IS OVERLOOKING IN ALL THIS. Ditto on most of what DT said. Ted has for decades been heavily involved in the NRA (as me since I was 15 and saw my first Jane Fonda speech on Future America). The 'unlimited' bit should be taken in context. The hoods don't let the law stop them from toting and using weapons. History and the facts back up most of what he said and DT elaborated on, as armed citizens are far less dangerous than a govt that prohibits such, or the hoods that cause said need. Defending oneself is NOT a violation of due process, BUT his remark about Irate daddies shooting thier daughter's "molesters" illustrates an emotional view that is being exploited by state and federal legislators, passing ambiguous laws that are retro-actively enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Civil Discourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Interesting debate. It seems if you are from the US you highly value the right to bear arms. If you are from most other places in the world, you believe that guns should be restricted. I think Delta feelings are closer to mine but in many ways I am envious of guys like Bad Aim and Greenstreaks who have a great collection of weapons. Don't see much change coming though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 It seems if you are from the US you highly value the right to bear arms. ~S~ BG, We just know our traitorous weasels .....err, I mean politicians better than the rest of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I would like to think the world and the political situation in the US has changed substantially in the more than 200 hundred years since the 2nd Amendment came into effect but then, as you say, you know what the politicians are like in the US. I just can't contemplate the idea of citizens rising up against the Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I just can't contemplate the idea of citizens rising up against the Government. We've done so twice in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Brando Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 On the odd occasion that the British have risen up against their Government (last time being the Poll Tax riots in 1990) the violence has been restricted to damage to public property, some arson, and some instances of looting. How it would have played out if the citizenry and the police had been armed doesn't bear thinking about. Just for the record the rising achieved its limited aims and more, leading both to the end of poll tax and the displacement of Margaret Thatcher from her role as PM. Armed insurrection was of course a key feature of the Irish situation with the Republican cause being supported and supplied by, among others, the Irish community of America. Before anyone flips out, I would like to say that there were many parts of the Republican cause which I sympathised with - the occupation of the six counties being a real survival of the Georgian policies that the Americans revolted against - but the slide into indiscriminate violence, the bombings, the knee-cappings, the roadside bombs, all those things were totally gratuitous and served no cause except the escalation of hatred on either side. It also served to show others how to fight an undeclared civil war, a situation that is demonstrated in the ongoing conflict between the West and Al Quaeda and the Taliban. To me, arming civilians is a risky business. The existence of legal guns means that most criminals have easy access to them too, ensures that the police have to be heavily armed as well, and allows all those horrific massacres to take place in schools, churches and wherever. I question whether that amount of 'collateral damage' is worth the notional option of 'armed revolution'? B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blairgowrie Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 "We just know our traitorous weasels .....err, I mean politicians better than the rest of you." I hope they were not the same lads who wrote the Constitution? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I hope they were not the same lads who wrote the Constitution? The American Founding Fathers contained some very interesting characters. But no, I wasn't referring to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribunus Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 - but the slide into indiscriminate violence, the bombings, the knee-cappings, the roadside bombs, all those things were totally gratuitous and served no cause except the escalation of hatred on either side. One of the more interesting things about the American Civil War, was that it remained Civil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gec Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 most of u all ready know my point on guns. civilian that must carry a gun or any other person that does not have carrying gun in hes job description probably have a small d**k (still not sure what to think about animal hunters but working on it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensenPark Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I just can't contemplate the idea of citizens rising up against the Government. We've done so twice in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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