T_O_A_D Track Ir Fix, Archiving It Here, For You Guys That Keep Needing it.

[T_O_A_D]

Edit: till I figure out how to add the pics back in I had a Document with most of this in it, so I added it to the bottom of this Post.

 

 

S! All

From the original thread:Ignore it is debunk dead forgotten

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/3471-TrackIR-Cheap-Fix-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?p=3564623&viewfull=1


S! All

Here ya go, this works GREAT! I have some pics of needed supplies. 3/4 inch wooden balls ( I think 1/2 or 1/4 would work too I just haven't located any yet, and this was such an improvement I had to let it out before I did any more work).99 cents at hobby store and some reflective tape. You can get it from TrackIR or a Mechanics tool dealer and who knows where else. Mine is from my SnapOn tools infrared digital tach. And some sort of glue I used my Wife's Hot glue gun. Also an old pair of glasses mine are some cheap fishing glasses that had scratched lenses, I popped them out. I only used about 5 inches of tape, also sand on side of ball flat for the glue to adhere too. Now that it's out I'm sure others will be able to improve on it and tweak it some I'm sure. Either by ball size for more precision or mounting like on hats, or using clips,Or piercings, Nose,eyebrow,Hey the tongue, there ya go never turn your head fly with mouth open and wag your tongue :mock:

Here are pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/supplies.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Frontflash.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Backflash.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Bottom_view.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Ball_Hat.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Ball_Mic.jpg

This is what tape was for before Track Ir
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/MVC-004F.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/TIR_Tracking.jpg
After freeing up my Hat button for looking I reallocated it to Zoom Views.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Smilies/icon_arrow_up.gif For Gunsight Zoom View

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Smilies/icon_arrow_down.gif Wide view Zoomed out

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Smilies/icon_arrow_left.gif Shift F1 View

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Smilies/icon_arrow_right.gif Normal Gunsight view

It was only natural to leave some sort of View stuff there, after so many years of Thumb looking anyways. :wink2:

And here is a couple of tracks of it being used.When viewing make sure you have manual view turned off so you see what I see.(that's the switch down position) Oh made with earlier TIR drivers on a Win 2000 machine, AMD 1400 512 pc133 ram LB was working then.


Here are some of it being use in video format at Youtube.

Look at this page for a cool video of it in action in Pacific Fighters.
http://www.mittoni.c...ker-p-2040.html

This is way easier than the Infra red LED Mod


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/tir.jpg

Besides I haven't seen any instructions on it anyways. Guys post stuff but seldom give the details, I'm from Missouri the SHOW ME STATE. :mh:

My mod works in the daylight and Dark too. I recorded track at 2pm with the sun shinning into the room. When you do it you will find that the TracIR stock setup on Deadzone is all you need, I have enough room to back away from sensor 5 feet and it never skips a beat.I was 2 1/2 foot from it during the track.

Below is a jpeg of my head travel. While in the pit. I used a short pencil in my mouth let it stick out about 1 inch. Then let it mark on note pad. then I retraced it with a felt tip for scanning.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/Head_travel.jpg

Here is my original TIR1 profile http://home.mchsi.co...ck_deadzone.rar

Here is my latest profile for the latest software for TIR 3, and 4 with vector
http://home.mchsi.co...with_Vector.zip

Link to Natural-point's latest drivers
http://www.naturalpo...nd-manuals.html

Link to Natural-point's drivers for older units.
http://www.naturalpo...manuals-v3.html


EDIT EDIT EDIT
Here is a great thread with pictures explaining the advantage of the ball I found recently.
Take me Over to the Birds of Prey Forum

I got permission to post them here now too. Thanks guys S!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/post-10-1066502789.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/post-10-1066505271.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/post-10-1066502748.jpg

Here is one of the IL2 Developers enjoying this modification. I found this pic on the 1946 Bonus DVD.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/DmitriSoldatenkov.jpg



Well good luck enjoy and keep me posted on how it works or you.

Link to my TIR3 Pro Observations I skipped TIR2

EDIT on the new VECTOR Thing

Link to update your Unit for 6DoF
http://www.naturalpo...nsion-help.html

http://forums.ubi.co...55&m=6361055203

http://forums.ubi.co...83&m=7951055203

Here is a real nice tutorial on how to setup the latest vector and drivers.
http://www.mission4t...op=show&kid=384
Here is my Hat after adding Vector to my TIR3Pro The clip is on only to show where my balls are placed. I fly without the clip, Balls only.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/T_O_A_D/Track IR stuff/1005.jpg


Just adding some threads.

http://forums.ubi.co...83/m/7681084124

http://forums.ubi.co...283&m=647100332

http://forums.ubi.co...m=489101822&p=1

http://www.simhq.com...=98;t=009991;p=

http://forums.ubi.co...83/m/3441037683

Oh and at last resort you can try and get the misses involved.

 

Link below is the Document, Word or Open Office will open it.

Toads Track IR Dot MOD.doc

[Snacko]

Hi Toad,

I just skimmed through this but am not sure of what problem you are trying to fix with this.

[T_O_A_D]

Back in the day when we had one flat 1/4" dot, the camera would lose track of it and your viewing experience would stutter.

Even today if using the half rounded reflectors if you move too much, you can still cause it to lose track of you.

With the Balls, it will not unless you get up and leave, but it will see you as soon as you get back.

And it takes very little if any fiddling with a profile to make it work properly.

In a bright room, you will still need to adjust filters, and or remove background reflective, and light sources. There is no getting around that even if you're using a lighted headgear.

Track IR has no brains, it only reacts to what it sees, just as our eyes do if hit by a flash from the peripheral vision.

[Friar]

T_O_A_D's glowing balls really do work !

Using some green reflective tape (designed to be attached to clothing) I added some strips to a small ball (nicked from one of the kids "connect 4" games) and fitted it to the top reflector of my vector clip.

The left and right movement seems to be ok, it was the looking up that lost track.

This fix really does seem to have solved this problem.

Great post T_O_A_D and thank you

Plus 1 karma from me.

Friar

[T_O_A_D]

Your welcome, its funny how so many won't listen to me when I talk about me balls.

hehehehe

I've only been doing it since

Thu July 24 2003 19:36

Enjoy your rig

[Streak]

Your welcome, its funny how so many won't listen to me when I talk about me balls.

It's the fact that you have three balls that keeps distracting them.

[T_O_A_D]

Your welcome, its funny how so many won't listen to me when I talk about me balls.

It's the fact that you have three balls that keeps distracting them.

But you will notice I only had one in the beginning,

[Tonar]

:k9lmao:

[Tonar]

Thanks for this tip Toad !

I did it with the clip and now TrackIR never loses visual with the reflector.

[T_O_A_D]

Glad to hear it, Amazing accuracy

[Rattler]

Just a suggestion here from my experience...

I was always having trouble with TIR cutting out in various situations - it especially would lose track in one direction or the other; not usually both. It would also not track linearly or smoothly.

I finally took a good look at my hat. It has wording on the front with a bit of silver colouring to it. I thought that maybe it was interfering with the reflectors, so I covered it up with black hockey tape (no, there isn't anything that hockey tape can't fix!)

Since then, I've had no TIR troubles at all in any conditions, day or night, lights off or on.

[JensenPark]

"What are you looking at dear?"

"Oh, the guys on the DD forum were showing me neat pictures of their balls...what, what?

[B16Enk]

"What are you looking at dear?"

"Oh, the guys on the DD forum were showing me neat pictures of their balls...what, what?

[Tonar]

I'll try to get over to the Zoo and put in a word or two.

I didn't see your little balls, nice

[Painless]

~S~ TOAD M8,

That's just what Ive been looking for to cure my TIR stutters and sticking. I tend to move my shoulders alot when flying so this fix looks to be just the ticket.

Thanks for taking the trouble to post

[B16Enk]

I tend to move my shoulders alot when flying so this fix looks to be just the ticket.

I reckon you should try two strips of Sellotape to cure that mate, one on each shoulder I find does the job of keeping the halter top straps nicely in place, and serves as a quick waxing too.

[Painless]

~S~ Rog M8,

PURE GENIOUS !!!!

~S~ Mick.

[Knight]

well i went around all the hardware shops and the 2 bike shops we have here and i couldnt get either materials to do this, i guess the internet is my next choice to look

[Tonar]

Knight,

I went to the Sewing and knitting crafts section in Walmart to find the foam balls, and I went to an automotive parts store for the reflective tape.

[Painless]

~S~ Knight,

I got 5/8th inch wooden balls from a hobby craft shop and the reflective "stickers" from a large Halfords.

~S~ Painless

[Knight]

Cheers Painless, i forgot to check halfrauds, hobby 'craft' shop got me stumped though, cant think of any where i am. I wonder if Ping Pong balls would do, got a local newsagent that has them for some reason lol

[Tonar]

Just make a ball out of tape and then put the reflective tape over that.

Viloa' 

[gec]

you could also use house aluminum foil and make balls with it.

u maybe not even need to have a reflective tape.

[T_O_A_D]

you could also use house aluminum foil and make balls with it.

u maybe not even need to have a reflective tape.

Tried that already, Foil does not have a high enough Luminous value, would make a ball for the tape I'm sure.

[Perfesser]

I found foam balls at a craft store in Canada called Michael's.

Tape at Canadian Tire.

Putting up a separate post about the camera I found.

IR camera WITH 6 IR LED's for $25 CDN.