Tonar Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 After many years of service and 2 years of toddler abuse I am ready to replace. But with what? I have a $150 budget. x52-pro Thrust Master MSFFB2 used CH I am leaning towards the x52pro or the CH what would a Dog recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Arthur Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Used MSFFB2 from Ebay. Keep X52 throttle = perfect combo Oh look; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Sidewinder-Force-Feedback-2-Joystick-Flight-Simulator-USB-/300992545365?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item46148dc255 or even; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-SideWinder-Force-Feedback-2-Joystick-/331046472910?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item4d13e84cce you get the idea; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-SideWinder-Force-Feedback-2-USB-Joystick-working-Flight-Sim-/131019772816?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item1e81631390 Plug 'n' play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I have an x52 pro and like it, but it's not much better than the normal x52 IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted October 20, 2013 2. Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2013 Used an X52 Pro for a long time then switched to a Sidewinder 2 FFB stick but retained the x52 throttle. Hopefully your x52 throttle is still OK so you could match that up with a MSFFB and have change from your $150! Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 is a $50 MSFFB2 worth anything? New ones are 100S of $ and a used one is $50? Doesn't that mean they are worn out? I would hate to buy a used piece of Shait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1. DDz Quorum Pooka Posted October 20, 2013 1. DDz Quorum Share Posted October 20, 2013 The last models made had Part# X08 on the bottom. Prior to those were X05. It probably depends on how much they were used, but these two models were considered the best of the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfesser Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Some swear by the FFB but they're getting pretty old. My 52 started to die, I got a CH Fighterstick. No comparison to the 52. Very crisp. Joysticks are a side line for CH. They make precision industrial controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 The ultimate setup within reason for IL-2 would probably be a MSFFB2 red and a X52 Pro throttle with either decent store bought or custom built rudder pedals. I have a CH fighterstick I picked up online for about $40. It's virtually brand new. Great for flying anything with advanced avionics and radar like DCS or Falcon BMS but I still prefer the MSFFB2 for both IL-2 and CLOD. I didn't find it so great for ROF, you need to turn the forces down considerably or fighting the torque/ungulations of the plane gets a bit hard on the wrist. The CH is a very precise piece of equipment but once you've flown IL-2 with a MSFFB2 nothing else feels quite right. I'm thinking I should pick up 1 or 2 more MSFFB2 before too long so I have spare parts. It might actually be possible to remake the stick using the same driver but would require a lot of work. I've toyed with the idea of upgrading the system to a more robust version perhaps using several metal parts and newer servos. I'd have to buy another stick just to prototype though cause there is no way I am messing with my current one which works beautifully. The only part of the system that would be difficult to replace would be the PC boards. To that extent the only thing I see possibly going out would be some power components or servo drives which should be repairable by a skilled electronics technician. The circuit board quality seems very good on the one I own, solder work would seem to stand little chance of screwing them up. Some on the cheap boards I've seen can only handle so much before the wire traces start coming off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonar Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Thanks all for your insight, I have won an auction on ebay for a MSFFB2 with the earlier X05 model#. winning price of $41. My X52 throttle still works fine so it will continue to serve me like it has for so many years. Fingers crossed it works when I receive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2. Administrators Jabo Posted October 25, 2013 2. Administrators Share Posted October 25, 2013 If you get the original discs it shipped with, don't bother trying to install them on Windows 7 as they're not compatible - the OS will pick up the joystick and install the drivers just fine though. Jabo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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