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Personally, I'll be sorry to see '46 and CloD go. For me, DCS requires too much effort to be moderately competent let alone competitive and GBS doesn't have the planeset or scenarios that hold my interest all that much. It doesn't matter really though - I fly so little now anyway that my input to the group is token at best. That said, I do think that the group as a whole needs to find a way forward that suits the majority of regular flyers. Our decisions when '46 was THE sim were easy - now there are 4-5, making everyone happy is going to be nigh on impossible. I will go along with the majority view for the good of the Dogz, whether I decide to fly or not.

CloD server: I have no intension whatsoever to stop it. All DServers (Clod, DCS, GBS) are now running on one and the same server. Rog is busy to move the rest (forums and stuff) over to it as well, so in the end there will be only one server left, which is good regarding costs. As in less than we are spending currently. I do not see any sense in trying to get CloD server - visitors - users to donate for it. If we want to go that route, then we need to limit access to it to folk-that-pay-to-play-clod, and that simply means shutting it down. As limiting access that way is too labor intensive and complex to implement. In my humble opinion, we offer a free service at the moment. No guarantees, it is what it is - anyone can use it, anyone can enjoy it - for as long as it's there. I do not want to handle any shift when people have donated, and next the CloD server's not available, and I need to fix it because they've paid for it - maybe they have not in a true sense, but they might think they are entitled to using it. I aint goin't here! ?

Again we need the views from the people who seldom fly or are thinking of returning as they might not have GB or DCS

Nothing much really, we mostly talk about how brilliant 1946 and CloD are ...

I think that this thread is the progression of those similar ones we have had over the past few months and is a sign of how the Dogz are settling into the available sims and personal routines over the time the discussions have been going. I am in favour of GBS Sundays and Tuesdays. Mondays and Thursdays are not so easy for me as my availability changes but I will make an effort to tie down a Thursday for DCS. I think even putting 46 on an alternative night won't attract any more to it so I think 46 should be put in a cupboard and available time used to develop those sims we choose to fly more. I have no input for CloD really as I haven't picked that sim up at all. However, my view is that if it is a valuable resource for the community as a whole then I would be up for the server kept going provided that those using it would be more willing to contribute to help Dogz resources if it is costing us to run it. If the server is run by an individual, is it FT?, then that would be up to them perhaps but I have always held quite strong views over contributions. In reality I think that having 4 sims has caused an issue as there has been too much choice however I think that is now sorting itself out and the time really has come to drop those that are not as popular. Cheerzen.

I see what your thinking Mick, however there are many CloD flyers who are very loyal and find CloD suits them best. I am not sure that ATAG would want to take over running missions that a few squads see as "easy" settings but the DD server does seem to offer what people want, and if we stopped running the CloD server the DangerDogz would dissapoint quite a few flyers. I dont know how much donations have come from squads, individuals who are on our server an awful lot. Everone who has posted in this thread is a regular flyer so its hard to guess what the no flyers would like.

Re: CloD. It's got a bit stagnant lately, low numbers, and a bit of a "same old, same old" aura creeping in; however, it is still: 1) a flight sim 2) a good number of us own it 3) we have a strong presence in the CloD Community because of it (therefore could be a door to recruitment, which we need to work on) 4) there is an expansion out soon to bring a new terrain and many new a/c. Plus, and from a personal standpoint, just because I don't fly it weekly does not necessarily mean I don't wish to fly it all! The server can be fun, particularly if you team to achieve an objective rather than just operate a collection of lone wolves. For these reasons, keeping a toe in the water with CloD could be prudent. It seems to me that GBS and DCS have the most numbers attending. These then I suggest should move to the Sunday (GBS), Tuesday (GBS), Thursday (DCS) slots. Perhaps have CloD Wednesday, and Il-2:1946 Monday or vice versa. There's still Friday/Saturday also. Are we leaving these unassigned?

Looks like we may finally witness a P-47 being put through its paces this year if this video from the weekend is anything to go by! Must be Richard Grace at the helm, that's certainly not the usual sedate approach usually taken by Stuart Goldspink - no offence to him of course, he puts on a wonderful Hurricane display, just never seems to wind up the Jug. Also, this could be the year of warbird aerobatic teams, if the Horesmen cometh and we get to see Nellie B as part of the new ULTIMATE FIGHTERS team. (Hints of Breitling Fighters most welcome) https://www.facebook.com/1785419121510239/posts/2378405305544948/